Lazy J20 hype ...

mgaw

around £2300 fully loaded I think maybe a bit less,  FWIW I got one yesterday, (2nd time round) great amp IMO

Marshall

mgaw said:

around £2300 fully loaded I think maybe a bit less,  FWIW I got one yesterday, (2nd time round) great amp IMO

congratulations  

hotpickups

I must admit I'm not missing mine ....... yet

Majorscale

hotpickups said:

I must admit I'm not missing mine ....... yet

All in time David... I have a few other (tasty) amps, but keep coming back to my J20H. I love that tweed sound.

Dominic

" Love that Tweed sound"..........is a fairly generic statement
The Gartone Bluesman , Vyse and possibly the Victoria will all do the same job
IMO the gartone is best of the lot 
It is a great sound in a 20w package and such a useful size/weight
Lazy J has the hype factor but I really don't think there is a gnat's cock between them

Majorscale

Dominic said:

" Love that Tweed sound"..........is a fairly generic statement
The Gartone Bluesman , Vyse and possibly the Victoria will all do the same job
IMO the gartone is best of the lot 
It is a great sound in a 20w package and such a useful size/weight
Lazy J has the hype factor but I really don't think there is a gnat's cock between them

Calm down Dom, my reply was to David, who I know well, and who recently let his J20 go rather than a reply to whether LJ deserve the hype or not. 

On the subject of hype, never tried the Bluesman and if there's "nothing more than a gnat's cock" between them I'd consider whichever has the best resale in case the amp didn't work out. FWIW the best tweed amp I've played was built by Chris @RiftAmps ;

breezytele

richh said:

Thanks, I'll have another try out.  I understand that the volume / gain control of the 'other' channel - the one you are not currently plugged in to - has an effect of the active channel.  So I'll have to experiment with this.  I assume that is what @Wazmeister means by blending?

I guess you’ve worked out the controls by now, but I found the attached video useful , even after I’d had my J20 for quite a while.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VN2vqCxaeC0

Ossyrocks

Having owned and tried many 5E3 style amps, I too think the Gartone is the best. They have a really muscular presence and are far better suited to gigging than any others I have had.

I have a pair of the little belters.

Rob

dazzajl

Is this going to turn in to ‘who’s is the best 5e3’ thread?

There should be a prize for the first person not say ‘mine’

Wont be me sadly. Mine actually is the best 5e3

tone1

I’ve only owned one 5e3, but I did play Wishbones’ Lazyj 20 that pumkin now owns... It was very nice..... I call my Tweedyluxe the ‘Poor man’s Lazyj’ it is very sweet sounding and looks pretty cool too

https://i.imgur.com/3Swjloy.jpg

Dominic

Majorscale said:

Dominic said:

" Love that Tweed sound"..........is a fairly generic statement
The Gartone Bluesman , Vyse and possibly the Victoria will all do the same job
IMO the gartone is best of the lot 
It is a great sound in a 20w package and such a useful size/weight
Lazy J has the hype factor but I really don't think there is a gnat's cock between them

Calm down Dom, my reply was to David, who I know well, and who recently let his J20 go rather than a reply to whether LJ deserve the hype or not. 

On the subject of hype, never tried the Bluesman and if there's "nothing more than a gnat's cock" between them I'd consider whichever has the best resale in case the amp didn't work out. FWIW the best tweed amp I've played was built by Chris @RiftAmps ;

Sorry,hope you didn't misunderstand .....I didn't mean that disparagingly
.......I was trying to say " that Tweed sound" ........there's alternatives at the top end, ie ; I really don't think Lazy J has a monopoly on the best Tweed sounds.
@Ossyrocks........Yup,glad you find the same as me.......you hit the nail on the head ..."Muscular" is spot on the right word.
They are bastard Loud and very raunchy little things

hotpickups

Stop it you're starting to think I want one again

SunDevil

+2 for Gartone - I have a LP Tweed Twin / Pro hybrid that finally gave me what I wanted in a Tweed, after trying a number of alternatives.

breezytele

Well, Guitar magazine gave the Lazy J10LC the front cover and amp of the year title...
He’s only gone and done it again.. rock on Jesse !

grappagreen

Slightly OT but I built as Vyse 5E3 a couple of years ago. I actually chose to build it without any understanding of what a 5E3 amp was and largely on the basis that it looked simple. My strategy was that I would build a 'decent' amp afterwards...

I've never played a Lazy J but if it's better than my 5E3 then it must be something very, very special. I'd go as far to say that the Tweed is the only amp I've ever owned that I've never had the thought when playing 'this would be better with a bit of reverb'

Si

hotpickups

Personally if I was ever to go down the tweed route again I'd be looking at gartone or rift now. Very nice amp builds they are. Their other amp models they do are pretty special too 

dazzajl

grappagreen said:

Slightly OT but I built as Vyse 5E3 a couple of years ago. I actually chose to build it without any understanding of what a 5E3 amp was and largely on the basis that it looked simple. My strategy was that I would build a 'decent' amp afterwards...

I've never played a Lazy J but if it's better than my 5E3 then it must be something very, very special. I'd go as far to say that the Tweed is the only amp I've ever owned that I've never had the thought when playing 'this would be better with a bit of reverb'

Si

The Lazy Js I’ve heard have been super sweet amps but nothing sounds better than my Vyse. Not to my ears anyway. 

Does depend what you want from your amp naturally. 

jeromegreenday

I bought a second hand Tungsten Mosaic MK2 from America a few years back for £500. I A/B'd it with a lazy J, Yeah they both sound the same, that tweed midrange hump. I'm a blackface Brownface kindda guy. I turn my back on someone when they start charging £1200 for an amp then £2200.

cbellanga

Apart from maker / price etc and more about that mid hump thing. Try any of these amps loud and you will notice that midrange actually works quite nicely in a band mix. Not so prominent.

Lebarque

cbellanga said:

Apart from maker / price etc and more about that mid hump thing. Try any of these amps loud and you will notice that midrange actually works quite nicely in a band mix. Not so prominent.

Exactly. Agree. That's the point. Tweed rules, especially for single coils. Blackface is all well and good at home, but can disappear in a band mix, especially if you're playing single coils. Actually, I've had an idea: you could use extra heavy strings and stick a tube screamer on. What do you reckon?