love Gilmours tone and style of play.....is it all just the loud HiWatts and a Big Muff ? I got a Nano Big Muff which is just a Big Muff in a smaller package, now I really struggle with this pedal - in isolation it sounds merely ok. When I tried it with the band a few times (I need to again, maybe with my SSS Strat) it was just this horrible fuzzy wasp in a jam jar tone that you'd expect better from such a legendry pedal. Unlike the RAT which i can quite enjoy at times - as its richer in the mids and cuts well...the Muff is a harder pedal for me to love. What is Gilmour doing besides the Big Muff and delays ? I know he uses (or used) to a CS-2 which I also have so maybe more experimenting but I'd love to get that tone, surely its not all just his magic fingers ? Big Muffs...stuff of legend, but I'd probably think similar if I ever got a Fuzz Face - I can enjoy Hendrix and Johnsons tones but when I watch demos on youtube I'm getting that same "why is this a classic tone ? " impression. I wonder if my love for smooth creamy, singing mid rich tones like Brian May makes it hard for me to love something so extremely opposite?
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Which era?
In answer to points above:
1. Muffs are always stacked into a BK TD or Colorsound Powerboost and then midboosted.
2. Compression- more MXR Dyna than CS2. But always there.
3. Delays- they're parallel mixed which is what makes them sound so huge.
4. The modern Big Muff is light years away from what he uses- currently it's a Sovtek Civil War and before that Ram's Head (2015) and before that the mighty Pete Cornish P1 (2006 tour)
5. Clean amp- any Fender will do the trick.
6. On a budget- RAT into a BD2 will do the trick nicely
7. Re your comment about May, DG also boosts mids hugely. His tone is shaped ^ always
8. Fingers- 80% of it, believe me.
9. Crank the dirt and amp, roll off a little on vol knob/pedal.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
^ Then add a CE2.
Most of those delays are a 2290 or the MXR System II parallel mixed with chorus on the signal POST delay.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
does here seem to do a half decent Gilmour tone all buy itself.....see 1:33
it has everything you need to know
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
Except for the matter of the correct CNumb and Echoes dela settings, which I obtained off PT via Guy.....and were not what Bjorn said they were!
If anyone's heard the new Time intro-
3 Delays: 103ms (6 repeats), 309ms (two repeats) 412ms (one very loud repeat)
It took me some time to work that one out and did so with help of a mate. It sounds incredible. Utterly useless other than playing one note....
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
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I've managed to get a good muff tone with the Thorpy and my Cornish (but they're boutique), but I guess more importantly, a single digital delay at between 400ms - 540ms (depending on song), with a slightly darker repeat works well. Mix in a bit of chorus for the 80s./90s era.
My one piece of advice, as someone who has chased this tone for the best part of ten years...don't worry about getting the most expensive gear and don't worry about being absolutely spot on. There's so many factors which us mere mortals may never be able to account for. Best bet is to get the basics together (the aforementioned) and try to get the best out of those basics.
PS, Gilmour used a RAT, stick with that if you like it more. A RAT works perfectly well. Especially if you're running a Fender amp. It'll probably play better with it than a Muff (unless you boost the muff, as Gassage says).
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Good luck with it fella
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Got a Buffalo Evolution and there was the smooth soaring lead tone I'd been looking for.