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So effectively 'Terry Morgan 59 Flame Top Replica' and those who know about it will inquire accordingly - But which ever way I dress it up, I'm in breach of Gibson's intellectual copy rights - Yet I want to be egotistical (is that the right word ?) about selling such a fine guitar - I might end up buying it as my own property and sell it that way accordingly, utilise the likes of FB and or take to many shows I exhibit at and sell it, promote on the QT
Not sure how sites like gumtree, e-bay and reverb go on for such listings be it a Chinese fake or a work of art from TM
In which case isn't it a criminal offence to sell one just as it is for the Chinese fakes?
Of course it is.
However, let's see how the snobbery effect plays out here.
The whole fake thing is just a little too moody for my tastes...they may be great guitars...one of the Canadian fakes I've played was both scary looking and even scarier sounding .... I have friends who own them and swear by them. I have friends who sell them, I wouldn't dream of presuming any nefarious intent on their part...none. Indeed, as per your intentions, they go out of their way to describe exactly what is being looked at.
Their very existence may well be entirely innocent, and yet something lurks in the back of my mind that all is not ok with them. They are overtly not what they purport to be...that bothers me...for some God unknown reason.
Real is Real.
You pays your money and you steers your own ship.
Tbh those in the know will always seek out the best replicas, and the less exposure these guys are given (through threads like this) the less likely they are to get any grief!
2)An amazing guitar is just that regardless of the name on the headstock but some people do care about it's legitimacy and the risk of someone selling a good repro that is hard if not impossible to tell apart from an original
3) no I don't think that the small guy puts a huge financial dent in Gibson's profits but Gibson's attack lawyers have to police the small guys too or they won't be allowed to pursue the big companies whose actions do put a dent in their bottom line
4) agreed and can't help feeling that threads on a highly visible forum like this don't put such people in the cross hairs of Gibson's lawyers. It happened to the late Sid Poole who I was friends with and made some beautiful Les Paul style guitars that found favour with some top players.
Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
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It's a rhetorical question, we all know the reason.
However I believe the intellectual property right is not just about the headstock name/shape, I think they get shirty about the body shape, 2 humbuckers, 4 control knobs and switch, hence the case against PRS - PRS had enough cash to take Gibson on via a team of lawyers and a court case - Guitars like the Tom Anderson Bulldog and indeed the black/white Duesenberg V, (to name 2 examples) when they get the letter of intent from Gibson, you way up the cost of action v the profit you have made and intend to make over the next 10 years or so, then realise you are better dropping that model and Gibson win with a threat and no more
BUT I can totally see how it would make them less desirable to some people.
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Hundreds of Strad replicas are built by 100's of small luthiers and this happens today and has gone on for many many years - Admittedly no one owns the Strad copy right (or so I believe) - Most are built not to fraud the market and to pass it off as an instrument worth million £ or so - But built as fine replicas for musicians to buy and play and fully appreciate them for what they are - it is acceptable practice in the string business
Gibson make replicas. Other makers using their own logo/name make replicas. Terry Morgan LPs are fakes.
As a shop owner, potentially buying and selling one, I think you're crazy Mark. I wouldn't touch one with someone else's bargepole.
Given how litigious Gibson are - and how Trading Standards tend to deal with counterfeit watches/designer goods, I wouldn't go any where near it.