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Imagine if the Germans had made it to the UK shores. Once they had forcefully blundered their way across England they begin to ban the English language, burn the St George's flags, shoot people for no reason and raise whatever they wanted to the ground while taking over all the manor houses and estates.
Then, imagine that an army of men with no little or no arms, no military training etc attempted to rid England of these invaders. It rumbles on for decades before finally an English politician decides to section off 1/6 of the English counties to give to the Germans as a peace deal if they leave the rest of the country.
So there you go. Proud England, sitting with one sixth of their nation now occupied by Germany. Problem is, the settlers who want to be German, not English are oppressing your friends and family in the counties that were partitioned. They are being beaten, murdered and driven from their homes. You think you'd be able to stand aside and watch?
Its easy to say "murdering bastards" and point the finger. Truth is, the IRA was born out of necessity to rid Ireland of the Brits over a hundred years ago. It's just that their last wave of violence proved to be the biggest one we've seen yet.
Again, I'm not agreeing with anything either side did. But we're all proud of our countries. To my English friends here... imagine how you'd feel if someone tried to take your country away from you... by force.
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And I don't disagree at all the the fundamental cause of the Troubles is British oppression in Ireland, going back as far as the Normans and then on and off ever since. Accepting that doesn't justify murder in the present day, by either side.
But even that can be consigned to history if both sides make a proper effort to put it there.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Never forget, hope to forgive, move on. Refighting the past just brings it into the present. No good can come of it.
Most MPs are clueless about the implications - a select committee was left speechless when it was explained to them
The recent violence (late 60s onwards) was due to the oppression of Catholics in the North. They were living in poverty while the Protestants were given new houses, first pick of the jobs etc not forgetting that the RUC were made up of sectarian thugs. The RUC were responsible for burning Catholics out of their homes, murders and large scale violence. The problem for them is the republicans bit back, hard.
Again, I'm not defending anything but I am keen to share a POV from my time here. And tbh the loyalist forces have brought much of the death on themselves because of THEIR treatment and murder of the catholic population. I'd also add that the Paras were an extremely trigger happy group of men within the army. They were responsible for both Bloody Sunday AND Ballymurphy. Thankfully, evidence is now being produced to show that everyone who was killed was a peaceful demonstrator.
Its easy for a nation to be judgemental when they are counter accused of atrocities. But that's what happened. The poor lads in the army were doing what their superiors (not even based in Northern Ireland at the time) told them to do. So I do have sympathy for the 18 year boys who patrolled the streets not knowing if they were going to be the next statistic.
Have you heard about the army run hit squad that patrolled Belfast in the 70s/80s shooting Catholics dead at random? As far as I can see, from my research, they never got one IRA member. Both sides have a lot to answer for and hopefully now that this country has reached a level of peace within we can denounce all acts of violence. The hardcore members of the republican movement left are well armed but they have been foiled many times. It's a pity a few of them slip through the net and get away with their crimes.
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History is fun!
Im in the middle of the north, its stunning here. Clean air, beautiful scenery and nice people. 35 minutes from everything we need/want.
Thankfully the scars are healing although some still won't let them heal altogether.
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I'm in London. Everything stinks, and it's an hour away. I love it.
Belfast may as well be called Manchester or Liverpool or Cardiff. VERY anglicised.
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Regardless of the cultural issues id recommend for anyone to stand in the glens of Antrim and not be impressed by how amazing our isles are
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Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
All I ever heard was things like ''we need to get over there and shoot them all'' , or ''Just drop a big fking bomb on them'' etc etc, I never once heard ''perhaps we need to think about a peaceful solution''.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
Interestingly what happened to the Anglo Saxon's is similar to the scenario put out by lonestar.