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He's accepted my offer of £6449
I quite like the looks of the Yammy but Ive tried a few different models over the years and never got on with them at all.
The necks are way too chunky and the overall weight is ridiculous to play comfortably for more than a few minutes.
Sound wise they're a bit meh, way too polite and sterile.
I remember trying a used SG1000 in a shop and then picking up a scruffy Yamaki lester copy straight afterwards, which p!ssed all over the yammy in feel, playability and character at a fraction of the price, so I bought that one instead.
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You have to ask - would you prefer to play this SG and a Boogie Mk I or a PRS and a Dumble??
They are just silly prices. Excellent. As you were.
I've since played one fitted with EMGs (yes really) and a Kahler trem - that was a lot better sounding but still weighed the same as an aircraft carrier. I played a lightweight one that @sweepy had - when I say lightweight, it didn't quite need a counterbalance FLT licence to operate it, but again, that was a great guitar.
However, I really don't want another one. There are other options out there that are cheaper (or at least similar money) that aren't so darned heavy.
Is is there a certain racism is the way value is added to a badly made American guitar, but not a "well made for its time" Japanese Guitar? I mean go an open up Guitarist mag in the 1980's. Lots of pro's used Yamaha SG's, Ibanez Roadstars, Schecters. Albums were made with these things.
Im being devils advocate here. But my SG1000 is as well made as my Les Paul & slightly more versatile. But I didn't blow £6K on it.
My feedback thread is here.
Because a 70s Fender should actually be worth about £250...
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Its not racism towards Jap guitars - I actually prefer Jap Fenders to US ones in general. I'd far rather own/play a 1980 Ibanez than a 1980s US Fender - as did many pros. Sadly a lot of the 80s were blighted by locking trems. And a lot of these are now dreadfully worn out making them as desireable as a secondhand Doner Kebab.
I'm not slagging the build quality off - far from it the Yammy was beautifully made and I haven't played a bad one. However, I never found mine to be 'versatile' with the standard pickups - as I said earlier, I found they lacked dynamics but then again, I prefer lower wind humbuckers so thats probably my problem not the guitar's!
Its not just about the length of time the string is moving for - the whole life of the note is affected
Very simply speaking, you can achieve "sustain" two ways.
1) improve the efficiency of the string so it looses less energy and sustains for longer. This is what you get from heavy guitars and very solid materials. Its the theory many were building to in the 80's. The attack is often quite fast,and direct. The note reaches its peak quickly with very little initial decay and stays near that peak for a long time.
2) feed energy back into the string to keep it vibrating. Stand in front of a speaker, use a sustainer... or build a very light and resonant guitar. more string energy is passed to the body, filtered, and returned to the string. The attack can be slower with more "bloom", the note drops from its peak more noticeably. The sustain will be more complex, the note will change character more noticeably as it continues
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They bring buttons now - so I think the issue is more 'not Gibson or Fender' than 'Japanese'.