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Jazzmaster Staytrem owners - help please

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jonnygreentreesjonnygreentrees Frets: 671
edited March 2018 in Guitar
Hi all, can some people with Jazzmasters and Staytrems post some photos of how high they have their bridges?

I feel like I have to have mine much too high to avoid fret buzz and think that I may need the truss rod adjusting
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7213
    jonnygreentrees said:
    Hi all, can some people with Jazzmasters and Staytrems post some photos of how high they have their bridges?

    I feel like I have to have mine much too high to avoid fret buzz and think that I may need the truss rod adjusting
    Which model is yours? (Pic coming)
    https://open.spotify.com/artist/350MeprlGRHZw73mPOJG2x?si=5stis2yVTPSxTKpEizaQ3g
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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 1389
    Does the neck have a shim? If it does, try it without. The only time a high bridge is a problem is if the strings catch on the back edge and it impedes vibrato function/tuning stability. Or if it's really high, you can't get the pickups close enough to sound how you want. 
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  • DaevidJDaevidJ Frets: 414
    If your neck is straight or close to and you are getting buzzing it may be (depending on the model) that you need a shim in the neck pocket to increase the break angle a little.
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7213
    http://i.imgur.com/lZ3ikYw.jpg
    https://open.spotify.com/artist/350MeprlGRHZw73mPOJG2x?si=5stis2yVTPSxTKpEizaQ3g
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 27232
    I'll check mine but 99% sure it's identical to @GavRichList's ;

    If you're getting fretbuzz that should be a neck/truss issue or a high fret, usually not a bridge issue. 

    Is it a) everywhere b) at the low frets c) at the high frets or d) at only one or two specific frets?
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10339
    https://i.imgur.com/HeFFUmc.jpg
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • jonnygreentreesjonnygreentrees Frets: 671
    GavRichList said:
    http://i.imgur.com/lZ3ikYw.jpg
    Cheers, that's significantly lower than I'm able to get mine

    Mine is a 2006 MIJ, strung with 11s. If I had mine that low I'd definitely get a lot of fret buzz.

    I don't think there's a shim (never checked), reckon the neck might be too straight?
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10339
    GavRichList said:
    http://i.imgur.com/lZ3ikYw.jpg
    how high is your bridge pickup?
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • jonnygreentreesjonnygreentrees Frets: 671
    stickyfiddle said:
    I'll check mine but 99% sure it's identical to @GavRichList's ;

    If you're getting fretbuzz that should be a neck/truss issue or a high fret, usually not a bridge issue. 

    Is it a) everywhere b) at the low frets c) at the high frets or d) at only one or two specific frets?
    All over but mainly at the higher frets
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  • jonnygreentreesjonnygreentrees Frets: 671
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    GavRichList said:
    http://i.imgur.com/lZ3ikYw.jpg
    how high is your bridge pickup?
    a bit lower than Gav's.

    I'll try and get some photos
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7213
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    GavRichList said:
    http://i.imgur.com/lZ3ikYw.jpg
    how high is your bridge pickup?
    The AV65s have a slightly re-angled neck pocket, so the break angle is pretty steep. Hence the bridge pickup height. 
    https://open.spotify.com/artist/350MeprlGRHZw73mPOJG2x?si=5stis2yVTPSxTKpEizaQ3g
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10339
    @GavRichList

    that would explain why my mastery was on stilts when you sent it back. I had to drop it a shitload after you borrowed it.
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7213
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    @GavRichList

    that would explain why my mastery was on stilts when you sent it back. I had to drop it a shitload after you borrowed it.
    Yep 
    https://open.spotify.com/artist/350MeprlGRHZw73mPOJG2x?si=5stis2yVTPSxTKpEizaQ3g
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  • jonnygreentreesjonnygreentrees Frets: 671
    What can you use to make a shim?
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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 1389
    jonnygreentrees said:
    What can you use to make a shim?
    Playing cards, plectrums, sandpaper, wood scraps, old debit cards, business card. Fender used to cut up bits of fiberboard (the stuff the amp circuits were built on) as shims from the factory. 
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  • GagarynGagaryn Frets: 1553
    Mine is quite a bit lower, know buzz, strings clear the back the bridge fine.


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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10339
    Gagaryn said:
    Mine is quite a bit lower, know buzz, strings clear the back the bridge fine.


    My CS is very similar, although rocking a mastery
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • punchesjudypunchesjudy Frets: 1031
    If you're getting buzz mostly on the high frets your neck is probably too straight or even has some backbow. 

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  • jonnygreentreesjonnygreentrees Frets: 671
    punchesjudy said:
    If you're getting buzz mostly on the high frets your neck is probably too straight or even has some backbow. 

    Yeah that's what I was thinking
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7213
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    Gagaryn said:
    Mine is quite a bit lower, know buzz, strings clear the back the bridge fine.


    My CS is very similar, although rocking a mastery
    Yep, that’s about where my jag is too 
    https://open.spotify.com/artist/350MeprlGRHZw73mPOJG2x?si=5stis2yVTPSxTKpEizaQ3g
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