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I have only tried a few , but their seem to be so many different models and variations of models that it's going to take quite a bit of research to know exactly what I am buying .
There also seems to be huge differences in weight , and some of the prices can easily run into thousands by adding a few words , is , true historic or standard historic .
I suppose most manufacturer's are guilty of over complicating their product line , but Gibson seem to be very good at this.
I grew up lusting for an LP Custom because of Steve Jones white one he played in Sex Pistols, I've had 2 over the years a white and then a black, never bonded with them at the time, but I was a lot younger then. I don't like the fact that the new ones have chipboard fingerboards instead of ebony.
My R8 fills my LP needs and the lovely golden honey iced tea flame top looks better than black or white anyway.
The all-mahogany body makes quite a big difference to the sound, the ebony fingerboard does to the feel, the ABR-1 to the look, and the long tenon to... er, something. Or not.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
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I will caveat that with my experience of a true historic that I spent a few hours with: A 57ri black LP custom. it was average at best, even through some very high end boutique amps. At the price they are listed at, I would have expected it to blow my head off.
Just a poor example i'm sure but again it brings back the well worn phrase of good and bad guitars at any price point and as such, play as many as possible and pick the one that works for you.
after that it's the 59 3 pickup with bigsby, such a cool looking guitar
I haven't got either of them but will remedy that this year by making both
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I keep hoping one of these Epis will drop in my lap. Thick neck! Put a staple pickup in the neck of that and go...
I currently have a Epiphone Japan LPC if that counts. I almost sold it, but I'm glad I didn't. It's got a really clear sound for a Les Paul. No mud whatsoever.
If you want the sound (especially if you want the Steve Jones LP Custom sound) check out the mid 90s Les Paul Studios with the ebony fingerboards. Those things roar.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
No pick up covers is a matter of taste, but equally as against just removing the covers, you can look at the option of changing the Gibson pick-ups - Again a matter of taste but IMO there are many better pick-ups to fit to such a guitar as against what Gibson have fitted - Again will depend on the age, as Gibson have changed pick-ups many times that a Custom will be spec'd with
Many LP Custom's are heavy weight models - many over 10 lbs - finding something around 8.5 or 9lbs is pretty slim pickings
As per other comments above, an all mahogany bodied model sounds significantly different to a model with a maple cap - All mahogany tends to have more grunt, more focused mids and a touch less in the way of sparkling highs
If ABR-1 is high on your list then I think your only option is the VOS route
@wezv had a link running a day or two ago on a project - many of the best LP Custom's I've played are a few years old, with a good re-fret. no nibs, a new wiring loom and 'upgraded' pick-ups
Black does look cool but IMO white wins - old, dirty, custard or puss coloured - aka Fleetwood Mac and Rumours
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Just regarding the fingerboard, I thought even the Custom Shop ones had richlite nowadays?
Gibson seem almost perversely determined not to use ebony, despite the fact that even Epiphone use it.
Lord knows it's the only guitar I do truly and actively regret selling. What a mug.
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It would be a privilege to own it, even if only to look at....
FWIW they are still doing ebony on the VOS ones, and Chicago Music Exchange have some non-Historic VOS LPCs with ebony boards right now, but despite being basically my perfect Les Paul they're 2 bucks short of $6k...