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Out at the group stages? Shit.
Dont get past last 16? Shit.
Lose a penalty shootout? Shit.
Dont get past quarters? Shit.
Get beaten in the semis? Shit.
If Young had have kept his mark and that Croatian goal hadn’t gone in and we had beaten them 1-0 we’d be shit because France might have beaten us.
If we’d have squeaked past France in the final by fluke we would still be shit for some reason or other.
I see no point in these threads any more. I see no point in commentary, pundits, the media or any commentary on England as a national football team. Let’s just accept the fact that no matter who, or no matter what they do or don’t achieve, the majority of English people will just shrug and say “England are shit. End of.”
I want to say however that Sterling is not as good as he thinks he is, and lacks game intelligence, or just intelligence in general. Outside of Man City where he is made to look good by the stars around him, he’s nothing but a headless chicken on steroids.
At the beginning most accepted that this was a team stronger than the sum of its parts, and that is what they have continued to be. Not world beaters, but semi-finalists. Still a fantastic achievement, I really don't understand what some people expect.
Yes there is room for improvement and I'm sure Gareth knows that - With the probable exception of Jack Wilshire, I don't see many players back home that should have made the trip - So a bigger problem will be finding additional youngsters to develop into becoming better players for the next 2/3 tournaments - After all, only a few months ago the U19's won the WC, but are the likes of Lewis Cook going to morph into a Modric ?
Remember that quite a large % of the team/squad are not regular players in their own club team - Stone for starters, ditto Lingard, Delph, Rose, Rashford - Not much Gareth can do about this, but shows he has to work with what he has - And in doing so we have to accept our own limitations
Like many, after having to tolerate a mediocre team in such tournaments for so many years, you can't be to bothered to follow the national team to much - Club before country for so many, but at least Gareth has put some pride back and a purpose to how they should play
Maybe not starters but certainly worthy of places ahead of Jones and Dier.
Shelvey is just too emotional imo, the bigger the game the more chance he gets sent off.