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Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups ... Oil City Blog 7 String.org profile and message
on first listen there didn't seem a huge difference between the two across two thirds of it (unless it's all P bass and you're teasing testing us). a few places where it seems suspiciously grunty and clangy that made me think i was listening to a ricky.
on second listen i got organised and took rough notes of those instance i thought were definitely ricky. so by default the rest then falls into either the p bass, or so little difference it may as well be a p bass.
my notes say:
0m19s to 0m43s def ricky.
1m49s to 2m06s def ricky.
run at end from 2m44s def ricky.
and there was a bit 1m00s to 1m30s where i got the impression you were quickly alternating between the two. but the switching maybe too quick for me to reach a definite decision on either entirely before it changed. but that was the impression i got from that section.
have no idea how that comapres to the notes you kept of what you actually did but would obviously be very interested to hear.
if i'm wildly off in all instances that would throw this thread right up in the air.
next thread 'how can i make my ricky sound like a precision on a budget...?'.
don't remember anything. never done nothing. slept all night. my mum will give you an alibi.
but that will make another 'very interesting' head-to-head thread. good luck @TheGuitarWeasel
If you are struggling (or not bothered) to detect much difference with just exposed drums and bass guitar, how little are you going to care when the rest of a song arrangement is added? Many of the higher frequency details that help differentiate between bass guitar makes and models will be masked.
Methinks that you were deceived by the Soundcloud background photograph. I knew that I should have used another image.
Me also thinks that you do not currently have access to a P Bass.
Half right. The Rick switches from neck PU, to both, to bridge PU. The other bass remains consistent.
Half right.
Completely right.
That is exactly what I was doing. The "call" is the same phrase, cut and pasted four times. The "response" is a bunch of overplayed nonsense. Ignore the flurry of notes. It is the tone that matters.
Again, this was precisely my point. The attack transient on the notes influences how your ear decides what it is hearing. I hit 'em pretty hard.
Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups ... Oil City Blog 7 String.org profile and message
i got the behringer bdi21 pedal this week (sansamp bass driver clone). under £30 so didn't kill me. will see what i can do with that next time i have a bash but that was recommended a few times early on in the thread (thanks to those that recommended it) as a good way to aim my stock raw bass tone more keenly.
i actually didn't notice any background image. my adblock settings are set to block 99% of all superfluous gif flash etc, so it got blanked.
i have a hofner ignition violin. my heart is full and there are no other basses in my universe.
describing my answers as "half right" when there were only two options to choose from is...an indulgence bordering on charity!
'half wrong' then... *rolls eyes*.
"Ignore the flurry of notes. It is the tone that matters."
i use that one in the studio a lot too. i alternate it with "sorry, a bee bit me. can we go again?".
what do you mean by "attack transient"? and how do you suggest someone looking to get closer to a punchy ricky tone controls that aspect. is it all in the plectrum strike or would a compressor be useful in ramping things up too?
we have yet to hear the oil city pickup, but coming from a maker known and respected for their expertise and product, i suspect it will deliver according to the self-determined brief.
if demos arouse curiosity and interest, maybe it will make it into the official range, which would be cool.
but for me personally, in all my playing days i have never played a fender bass i liked (ever!).
i just find the necks waaaaay too chunky. jazz basses not too horrible until halfway up. but the precisions and even the shortscales i have tried (mustang and bronco) are just too thick.
if you have average male size hands then they are probably perfect. my theory is that they are essentially designed to suit a certain average male palm cup and finger length ratio.
but they don't suit me at all. my hand starts spazzing out and aching quick. so i avoid fenders entirely.
i had a fender-squier shortscale jaguar bass (curiously 'fender proper' don't do them) with an amazing neck, but i hated the pickup set up. very bridge-twang focused. and i didn't want to experiment with routing a neck pickup on a new bass.
i prefer neck pickups to bridge pickups (guitars & basses). they seem to generate more substance to play with.
gibson shortscale EBs are ok. skinny at the nut. they chunk out a bit (depth) further down, but not totally unplayable. they usually have a decent fatbucker in neck position too. but i'm not crazy about the look. very rock or metal vibe. bodies seem thin and insubstantial too (don't like SG guitars either).
anyway, i'm happily married to my little hofner ignition, and all the bass sounds i produce from now on will originate there. some may smile and call it a toy bass. and i understand what they mean. it's tiny, superlight, and a budget price. but for my build and hand size (and purse) it's perfect. and i have lots of effects and amp/cab sim things to play with. i can also build pedals so can tweak tone stacks and swap capacitors to restrict or free desired frequencies.
so that was the pretext for the thread; 'if you already have a bass you like, how can you push that into ricky territory at the minimum of cost with add-ons (pedals, etc) and/or with the minimum of mods (pickups, etc)?').
i think a lot of interesting ideas have come out of that. and still more to come. i want to hear this 'freakybucker' pickup. maybe doctor @Bridgehouse is in the lab working on that as i type.
Saturday night apethy has set in!
Both pickups on. Solo switch on. Plectrum or fingernail. Pummel the strings - hard enough to induce fret rattle, if appropriate.
It is difficult to offer suggestions for how to set the controls on the Behringer BDI-21 when it lacks any mid range tone controls. Plenty of gain, wind up the treble, lose a little bass.
A properly adjusted compressor will reduce the peak of the attack transient and can increase the level of the decay, sustain and the release.
Depending where the compressor is in the signal chain, it might reduce the sensitivity of overdrive circuitry to playing dynamics.
Thus, increasing the compressor make-up gain will send more signal to the next device in the chain but the sonic variety that you can achieve through playing techniques will be reduced.
The next step will be enginearing it into more than one form factor. Possibly a later split, humbucking version ... we'll see.
Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups ... Oil City Blog 7 String.org profile and message
Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups ... Oil City Blog 7 String.org profile and message