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I'm soon to be building a studio room in my garden. This is where loud instruments (ie drums) and my recording setup will reside. I'd like to be able to track drums in the studio and other stuff (vocals etc) simultaneously in the house, and so obviously some kind of multicore will be required to link up all the mic and monitor channels.
Rather than bury a huge multicore cable I'd like to go digital, via Cat5 cable. Does anyone know what interface boxes I'd need at either end of this to achieve what I'm after? Ideally this would just provide the audio in/outs so that I can plumb directly into my interface in the usual way (Focusrite Scarlet 18/20).
I've seen some digital mixers that feature external Cat5 stageboxes (eg Behringer X32), but I don't really want to buy a whole mixer just for this. Any suggestions would be very welcome!
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You could use a Dante-enabled stagebox like the Yamaha Tio1608-D. (I use one with my Yamaha TF-Rack mixer)
You would also need the R Remote software (free) to control the head amps in the stagebox, and the Dante Virtual Soundcard software ($29.99).
This would enable you to record 16 channels of audio direct to whatever DAW you use, and send 8 channels of monitoring back to the studio all down a single piece of Cat 5e cable.
You will probably be able to pickup a TIO1608-D for £600-800. That might sound expensive, but 20m of 24-way Van Damme Blue series multicore will cost £440, and 24 sockets at either end will add £150-200, not to mention the hardware to mount them (eg. a panel or box) and the hassle of terminating them all.
Worth considering...
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But yes, you need to consider how you're going to run the cable to your outside building. Things like UV-resistant cable, lightning protectors, etc.
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I would suggest Dante over AVB or Ravenna because there are more products on the market.
You want a hardware Dante solution for recording though, not Dante a Virtual Soundcard- latency is too high with DVS.
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But round trip will be about 10ms with DVS, where with my hardware solution round trip is 2-3ms.
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I get 48 channels of analog IO from that on half normalled TT bays with a fair amount of outboard as insert effects and various instruments, synths, guitar modellers on the patchbays too.
Everything can be repatched for tracking or mixing pretty quickly.
Here is the interface rack- the two bottom red boxes have 16 channels of analogue IO (and 2 channels of AES) connected via ethernet to the Red 16 Line (top red rack), which acts as a master interface.
I connect to one Mac over thunderbolt and another Mac via mini digilink to Pro Tools HDX cards in an expansion chassis- so I have one native processing rig and one HDX system (so I can get more than 32 channels of IO in Pro Tools).
As soon as Avid drop the 32 channel limit I'll get rid of the HDX system and run one computer- but who knows if that will ever actually happen.
Under the 2nd A16R there is a Grace M905 monitor controller is fed a variety of analogue and digital signals and I can switch between them and multiple sets of monitors.
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I'll have a small room in Geneva and most of it in the UK.
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Audio over CAT 5 is good for live, I use the A&H AR2412 which is nice and all but with the exception of Dante (which needs more kit) every manufacture does their TDM slightly different so a good old bit of multicore is the cheapest and most future proof way to go
I didn't realise 16 channel cable could be so thin - that's worth a look for sure. In fact, I might put that down as well as the Cat5 just for maximum flexibility (I'm sure there'll be other networking scenarios where it would come in useful.
Thanks for all the tips so far folks! Lots to look into for sure
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