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I'm interested to see how other people dial their Fractal units in for live use. Is everyone using stock cabs or IR's, what is everyone's go to amps? Anyone want to share?
I've been using the Mesa IIC+ for a good while but just started to explore the Atomica High and the Friedman models. I'm using IR's from the York Audio Bipolar pack and also Celestion IR's.
I'll post my presets up on here later today (Minus the IR's).
I'm monitoring on Kii Three's and soon a set of ATC SCM45a Pro's- other people will have amp fx returns, powered monitors, powered guitar cabs and other devices and the inherent EQ curve, despite what FRFR professes to solve, is different per device so you always end up having to dial it in.
For this reason I don't use presets myself and just make my own sounds.
That said, I'm happy to share mine (I'm have an Axe FX III and an FX8) and interested to see how others are structuring their presets.
I was impressed with @Clarky's Axe II approach where he was able to use an expression pedal to dial in clean to outrageous gain using two amps, although I don't use that approach myself.
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Also I tend to use one amp for clean to full on overdrive. I set the amp up for the maximum amount of gain I need for my heavy rhythm sound. I then use a volume block with a scene controller attached to the level. I can then vary the amount of level the volume block lets through to the amp per scene. In effect the volume block is mimicking the volume knob on my guitar.
I then use a drive block on top of my heavy rhythm sound for leads.
@wiredreamsdisaster once remarked that the big benefit of the Fractal approach is how it helps you manage workflow on stage. For example, the ability to have patches for particular song types, and scenes which correspond to intro, verse, chorus, bridge etc.
I would also add the ability to configure separate outputs for PA and monitor, and separate inputs for wireless and cable. So for example, I use the Global EQs on Output1 and Output2 to match my Matrix Q10 to my Mackie SRM450s. I’ve also got a filter block on Input2 to approximate the EQ of using a cable on Input1. If the wireless goes down mid gig I can switch to cable without losing the top edge, (my hearing is limited above 3kHz so I could not do this on the fly).
A particular benefit for me is the ability to run an acoustic guitar simulation and an electric guitar path in parallel in the same patch, which helps with Crazy Little Thing Called Love and Breakfast At Tiffany’s.
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But I guess any IR of a vintage 30 loaded cab with an SM57/Royer 121 would work.
The 4 scenes go from clean, crunch, heavier crunch and lead.
I've tested this live with my band at high volume and it sounds great and cuts through well.
Anyway enjoy.
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it's actually two hi-gain amps side by side that both morph clean to dirty simultaneously [and so retain that thick stereo spread]..
as you can imagine.. the two amps rate of change from clean through to hi-gain are different, so dialling in the modifier curves for each amp such that both the rates of change of gain and level match was where all the time and effort went..
get it wrong, and one side [one amp] starts pumping up faster than the other and so you get this moment where [in the stereo field] where you're a bit one sided..
not difficult to dial in.. just takes a little time getting the curve shape and mid-point values right
@Clarky is a genius at this stuff - I've got an expression pedal but I'm nowhere near getting it to do that clean to gain thing. Years ago he spent a good hour on the phone with me explaining how to set up a similar patch on a Digitech 2120 (think that was the model!) which sounded amazing. Probably don't remember but it was so useful and I used that for years
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Whilst I've downloaded and even bought other presets I've never found one that didn't need at least some tweaking.
Currently using one of the Friedman BE models based on a YouTube Leon Todd preset video, but have taken bits and bobs from others (including Fremen & Moke) such as block settings, scene controller settings etc. Over time I've learnt that there are many ways of achieving the same thing and that there are no rules.
My only bug bear that I've yet to truly conquer is that it does sometimes feel like there's a bit of midrange oomph missing and I'm fighting not to be drowned out by the other guitarist in the band. I think this is probably the "amp in the room" debate that perpetually crops up on the Fractal forum and I've yet to find the answer, but he has a Vox AC30 Custom head and cab and whilst I'll take the sounds the Axe gives me all day long, his just seems to be a bit louder without actually being louder if that makes sense? It could well be my (knackered) ears and a bit of the grass is always greener as even when he had a Helix I often felt his guitar had a thicker sound in isolation. Perhaps it's to do with the frequencies he's hitting?
I'm probably not making much sense! I really need to spend an afternoon just auditioning different IRs and playing with the EQ, but right now I just don't have time. In the context of a band mix at gig levels though the Axe sounds amazing and set up is such a breeze
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Just seen this thread. I’ve had an XL for about 3 years now. I'm a prolific collector of paid and free presets as I don’t have the time, inclination or patience to create my own. I have several in ax8 format which I convert with Fractool, including Vinny Burns set list that he used on a Dare festival tour about 18 months ago. These were posted by Vinny on the Fractal forum for free.
Not sure what style of music you play but I have most areas covered. I can share here or pm me any requests. They all use factory IR’s but I use some that suit me better (pair of Focal Alpha 80’s)
Im pretty happy with my sounds now so have slowed down on the searching front, but still on the lookout for a creamy, bluesy Les Paul type of sound if anyone has anything to share.
hope this doesn't sound like a rant, but I'm gutted you had to spend money to collect presets...the fractal stuff is so easy to use, I find that a massive waste. Apologies.
View my feedback at www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/comment/1201922
Just to clarify, I have a Les Paul guitar and would like to have a preset that has a creamy/bluesy feel to it.
View my feedback at www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/comment/1201922
As above, despite having bought the Austin Buddy sets for both my AX8 and the III, I never use them.
Cab packs yes but there are too many variables in these amp packs, guitars, playing style, speakers etc.
I just never end up using them
It really isn’t hard, especially in the later units.
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