Ok. Done. After pi55ing around with Jazzmasters, necks, etc, triggers brush stuff over the last few years, I just bit the bullet and bought a Mascis Jazzmaster, new for €437/£370 online in Spain, where I spend some time, so won't have it until the new year. A good deal I think, and as they are being discontinued, I thought I'd go for it.
Now, in terms of upgrades, what could I look at?
I have, on a body at the moment, a staytrem bridge, a fender trem , mojo pickups with black covers, so I could put these on, maybe get white pickup covers.
I know the stock pickups are decent, but I want to go towards the "proper" Jazzmaster sound.
I could change the pickguard too perhaps...
While on the search for high end stuff, I've been finding joy and satisfaction in cheap guitars.
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Don't sleep on the pickups either, whilst they aren't proper JM pickups, they sound incredible imo. I was planning on instantly putting Mojos in and it's not happened yet cos I'm so happy with the stock ones.
As for upgrades, if you plan to use the vibrato a lot id change bridge and vibrato itself. Avri or Mastery would be my choice. Haven't changed mine cos I'm not using the wiggle stick thing on this. Stock should be fine tbh as long as you don't absolutely twat the arm about too much.
I've changed tuners to Gotohs, bone nut, full cloth wiring and CTS pot upgrades, black anodised guard and a refin.
Like I said, it's my main, I adore it, it's the guitar I reach for first everyday.
I think I will start with the bridge and trem.
I could install mojo black pickups and a white pickguard which would totally change the look but might stick with stock for a while.
I have the same neck from the hardtail version which I might use on a telemaster.
Mint guard on the jmjm looks amazing so I'd defo look into that.
They're just great guitars whether stock or upgraded tbh.
Are your pickups stock?
https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/162554/ngd-squier-j-mascis-jazzmaster
Would the stock pickup covers fit a
different set of pickups ? I’d say so?
Your options would be to get a staytrem and replace the thimbles (so it can rock), or a roller bridge replacement for the adjustmoatic that's on there. I've found that the std bridge is OK for mild wobbling, but it not great for abuse.
I love my JMJM, it's one of my best guitars. You'll love it. Happy NGD.
Replacement pickups fit into the original covers, although the pole pieces won't protrude like the stock ones do with their screw pole-pieces. Don't be alarmed
Here are my two JMJMs
They both have replacement roller-saddled bridges (TOM-style), white witch hat knobs and a Mojo overwound pickup at the bridge position - the neck has the stock P90 - and replacement wiring.
The one on the right has a mint scratchplate and a Japanese Fender tremolo unit.
Despite both being the same electronically, they don't sound the same! The one with the gold scratchplate and stock trem sounds a lot more aggressive with more mids than the minty one (which is more refined, across a wider frequency range).
I'm not into conversions etc, are these really good out of the box?
I know offsets can be heavy, any ideas on weights?
Like this.
@dogload Out of interest, which roller bridge did you fit? Finding the right specs online for the JMJM is a bit of a minefield and matching the neck (9.5") and bridge (TOM are usually 12") radius seems to be a challenge.
I have the staytrem bridge and thimbles, so lucky enough there. I think I'll replace the trem with a Fender one, though I notice on the Fender one, the arm is "high" if that makes sense, compared to the CIJ one I had years ago, the arm was "grabbable" close to the strings.
Might get white pickup covers for the Mojos I have and that's it. Think I'll leave the pickguard. Can't wait!
Worth getting a new nut?
IMHO (and its just my opinion) because the trem is closer to the bridge, these guitars are *much* better with roller bridges than 'traditional' ones. I had a CP (same spacing) and I spent fortunes upgrading it to a Mastery - only to find it had a nicer trem feel and return to pitch with a £25 Wilkinson bridge.
As for the trem - well, having swapped them around a lot, I'm not convinced that the USA one sounds any different to the cheaper ones. The action is different - but I found the Squier was better for lighter gauge strings (spring tension). The biggest upgrade is a Staytrem collet and arm to eliminate slop - or in the case of the screw in trem arms *squeek*.
And FWIW, the stock pickups have their own thing going on. Its not quite a P90 sound, its brighter but its a good sound.
Like I say, its a good sounding/playing instrument without any 'upgrades' - try living with it first.
One thing I dislike is the rattling bar!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WILKINSON-STYLE-TUNE-O-MATIC-ROLLER-GUITAR-BRIDGE-FOR-GIBSON-EPIPHONE-LP-SG-ETC/193049737817?hash=item2cf2a93a59:m:mUGeGh7zXwAkwNlrcYzu6RA
Cheap and worked brilliantly. Fitted straight onto the mounts in the body.
As for the Staytrem size - you need the 10mm option for the original trem or the 3/8 for the US trem
I might do the StayTrem collet upgrade, but I've no plans to change the nut or bridge - it's all good as it is and stays in tune very well.