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What he lost was the shriek, but what he retains is the sense of using the full range he's got. His sense of dynamics is superb.
I guess the worst excess would be a lot of the stuff off the first album.
The flipside of that would be how he used the top of his range at full pelt on Zep iv (e.g. the coda of Battle of Evermore) which is absolutely spinetingling.
By ITTOD, he'd lost all that top and shriek. He was also older, probably felt about 100 years old after his poor son passed, and it's not that kind of album anyway.
As far as "In through the out door" is concerned, it's my least favourite Zep album. In the Evening and Carouselambra are the only tracks I like. They were a spent force by the time they made that album. It's a lazy album and just goes through the motions IMO. I might dig it out and give it a spin later but I bet I don't make it all the way through.
Saw Zeppelin live a few times and for the most part they were terrible and Jimmy was all over the place and sloppy. One or two good concerts and that was it. I didn't rush to try and get a ticket for the reunion gig with Jason.
Anyway, everyone knows the best band live were The Sensational Alex Harvey Band. If you ever saw them you'd know what I mean.
Ian
Lowering my expectations has succeeded beyond my wildest dreams.
Ian
Lowering my expectations has succeeded beyond my wildest dreams.
I've got an envelope full of of old tickets.... just had a look through and can't find it, although I did find a few others from the '80s and early '90s I'd forgotten about.
Pulled it out of the brown bag for the first time in a couple of decades this evening. Shall have to give it a listen.
* Just checked - mine's a 'B' btw
But I admit that you can hear that there's a quality band in there but are playing songs they are not necessarily completely comfortable with.
Maybe you had to be there.
Presence on the other hand, is probably the one that really has been elevated in my mind as a classic. The playing is just awesome and the pace just frantic (probably the reason it was not as widely liked).
Feedback
I reckon for where it comes in their catalogue it's a resounding success and most bands would kill to be this "not shit" at this stage. I'm enjoying all of it apart from Hot Dog which can go straight to Room 101. They're moving with the musical times - a bit of leading and a bit of following, and I'd like to have heard what came next. Page got obsessed with Killing Joke after this - that could have made for an interesting influence.
I've read people arguing that Bonham lacks the subtlety for this kind of music and I just don't get it. He's great on this album, especially South Bound Saurez.
Led Zep are one of my favourite bands of all time and probably the most influential. It's funny though, I've never liked Plant's over the top warbling, their more straight up blues moments or Page's self indulgent tendencies. Just pump the likes of Good Times Bad Times and Black Dog straight into my veins.