Land for sale

Axe_meister · October 2021

Why is it so hard to find land for sale?
In the next 4 to 5 years we are looking to move out of the big smoke. We are anti-social bastards so looking for a house in the country with no neighbours. One of the options is maybe a self build via a kit house.
There do not seem to be any good land for sale sites that you don't have to pay for. And what land I have found is mostly to build multiple small houses on.
I assume that new planning laws are geared towards building lots of small houses due to the housing shortage. So anybody like me looking to upsize to a new build is turned off the idea.

Switch625 · October 2021

Because capitalism...

trolley · October 2021

I heard a few years ago that for the builders every 4th house is straight profit (it's probably every 2-3 by now). So they can afford to pay much more for the land. Sadly.

ESBlonde · October 2021

Buy land, they’re not making any more of it!

VimFuego · October 2021

you could try stealing it. You know, find somewhere you like and each time you go past, take a bucket of it home. I reckon in 4 or 5 years you'll easily have enough to build a house on.

Roland · October 2021

Mark Twain said:

“Buy land, they don’t make it any more”

In the UK local councils keep registers of land which could be used for building. You can bet that developers have pored over those registers, and made offers on the land. Farms have also been targeted because, at some point, the farmer might be persuaded to retire, and the farm buildings converted.

One avenue is to find a small house or bungalow with land attached, demolish and rebuild.

VimFuego · October 2021

Roland said:

Mark Twain said:

“Buy land, they don’t make it any more”

In the UK local councils keep registers of land which could be used for building. You can bet that developers have pored over those registers, and made offers on the land. Farms have also been targeted because, at some point, the farmer might be persuaded to retire, and the farm buildings converted.

One avenue is to find a small house or bungalow with land attached, demolish and rebuild.

even that is difficult, where my mum lives they've pulled down one such house like that, and are building 6 houses on it (3 of which are already sold), so you're competing against someone who is able to bid much more than you.

boogieman · October 2021

Supply and demand innit? It’s all the fault of those Charlie Luxton/Grand Designs/Homes under the Hammer type tv programs. Now the world and its wife think they can go out and buy a plot of land and build on it.

TTony · October 2021

VimFuego said:

Roland said:

One avenue is to find a small house or bungalow with land attached, demolish and rebuild.

even that is difficult, where my mum lives they've pulled down one such house like that, and are building 6 houses on it (3 of which are already sold), so you're competing against someone who is able to bid much more than you.

Look for plots where you're not going to get permission for a small development type development. That needs to be outside village development boundaries, and not an old farm where you could convert separate outbuildings into separate dwellings.

Few and far between though.

And they tend to be at the end of dirt tracks, rather than on avenues.

WiresDreamDisasters · October 2021

Switch625 said:

Because capitalism...

Hardly.

It's because of corruption in the council system, and because of concerns about the green belt.

A friend of mine lives in Oxford. His family owns some land. They're not allowed to build on it. The family owns it. The council says no.

Go figure that out.

RiftAmps · October 2021

My half-sister and husband are trying to do this. They bought the land a few years back and are having real trouble trying to make progress. Every small step forwards is a massive hurdle that takes months to complete. They were living in an Airstream on site but gave up and have moved back in with my Dad and Stepmother. Think they'll eventually give up and cut their losses.

Dav275 · October 2021

Keep an eye on sites like https://www.greenshifters.co.uk/ and https://www.ruralscene.co.uk/properties/ . Also you sometimes get land for sale on http://https//www.accidentalsmallholder.net/

Good luck with your search, but I suspect the last couple of years of more people homeworking/escaping the cities has eaten up the supply, or at least pushed prices up.

TTony · October 2021

WiresDreamDisasters said:

A friend of mine lives in Oxford. His family owns some land. They're not allowed to build on it. The family owns it. The council says no.

Go figure that out.

It's because the council has the job of ensuring responsible/sustainable/appropriate (etc) development.

Sometimes it's to stop building on floodplains. Or building where there's inadequate infrastructure. Or building a towerblock in someone's back garden. Or protecting the greenbelt*. Or destroying natural habitats. Or because the backhander wasn't big enough.

*For those who live in London, the "greenbelt* isn't what Greta uses to keep her trousers up.

Dav275 · October 2021

Axe_meister said:

We are anti-social bastards so looking for a house in the country with no neighbours.

Or, this has just come on the market near me. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/114459959#/?channel=RES_BUY

WiresDreamDisasters · October 2021

TTony said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

A friend of mine lives in Oxford. His family owns some land. They're not allowed to build on it. The family owns it. The council says no.

Go figure that out.

It's because the council has the job of ensuring responsible/sustainable/appropriate (etc) development.

Sometimes it's to stop building on floodplains. Or building where there's inadequate infrastructure. Or building a towerblock in someone's back garden. Or protecting the greenbelt*. Or destroying natural habitats. Or because the backhander wasn't big enough.

*For those who live in London, the "greenbelt* isn't what Greta uses to keep her trousers up.

Yeah, they did all that. Some of the housing was for family use, some of the housing was for social use, affordable housing, that kind of thing.

The truth is, the council wants them to sell the land to a developer. Some shenanigrannies going on....

Iamnobody · October 2021

Dav275 said:

Axe_meister said:

We are anti-social bastards so looking for a house in the country with no neighbours.

Or, this has just come on the market near me. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/114459959#/?channel=RES_BUY

No issues with nosey/noisy neighbours there!

pmbomb · October 2021

Iamnobody said:

Dav275 said:

Axe_meister said:

We are anti-social bastards so looking for a house in the country with no neighbours.

Or, this has just come on the market near me. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/114459959#/?channel=RES_BUY

No issues with nosey/noisy neighbours there!

map shows it's right by an A road, cunningly not shown in the photos.

Iamnobody · October 2021

pmbomb said:

Iamnobody said:

Dav275 said:

Axe_meister said:

We are anti-social bastards so looking for a house in the country with no neighbours.

Or, this has just come on the market near me. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/114459959#/?channel=RES_BUY

No issues with nosey/noisy neighbours there!

map shows it's right by an A road, cunningly not shown in the photos.

So it does, but it’s set back a good 60 metres I’d say from the road. No neighbours just the distant hum of traffic!

Stevepage · October 2021

Because many aristocratic bastards already own the land worth having.

Nitefly · October 2021

Iamnobody said:

pmbomb said:

Iamnobody said:

Dav275 said:

Axe_meister said:

We are anti-social bastards so looking for a house in the country with no neighbours.

Or, this has just come on the market near me. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/114459959#/?channel=RES_BUY

No issues with nosey/noisy neighbours there!

map shows it's right by an A road, cunningly not shown in the photos.

So it does, but it’s set back a good 60 metres I’d say from the road. No neighbours just the distant hum of traffic!

The "distant hum" of about 3 cars a day, I'd bet.

Kilgore · October 2021

Because they're not making any more of it.

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