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You do know that they did the whole Stradivarius thing in a blind test, your argument don't stack up when people try to prove it. They did the tests, twice, by different people, in different years, it failed, both times.
2014
https://www.thestrad.com/blind-tested-soloists-unable-to-tell-stradivarius-violins-from-modern-instruments/994.article
2017
https://www.science.org/content/article/million-dollar-strads-fall-modern-violins-blind-sound-check
It is also clear to me that Pre-68 the reputation of the LP was that it was a failed product. The damn thing got canceled, then replaced with a different model in the catalog to take it's place. If that is not proof that it wasn't a hit pre-68, I don't know what is.
The Burst reputation was built post 1960 and pre-68. That’s indisputable. It’s the reason that Gibson started making them again.
Feel free to try find me 3 articles, from sites such as those, using unbiased search words, not your bedroom tester, and make it a 3-2 win for your side? I think that's perfectly fair.
I really struggle to understand how a product, any product, seemingly amazing, everybody loved...from a company the size of Gibson, only sold in low 4 digits (less than 2000), worldwide in 3 years count as desired. It certainly wasn't at the time. If it was, it would have sold more, it would have stayed in the catalog. it's reputation came after it was discontinued, I am not disputing that part but they were not a hit during their production run. Your opinion is your opinion but opinions don't change facts
1 - It sold in low numbers in 3 years
2 - It got cancelled
3 - It then got replaced
And then some guitarist call Eric and his friends played them and consumers wanted what their heroes used, but because they were not made anymore it creates the same psychological thing that still exists today. Limited numbers drives demand, you know that, I know that. I don’t dispute that. There are basically 2 different topics here
1 - what happened whey they were being made
They were not desirable enough, at least not enough to be kept on the catalog
2 - what happened AFTER does not change the FACTS that it was removed from the catalog. It failed right up until 1968 when it was brought back and stayed on the catalog.
The bursts' desirability came from not of their physical nature but the limited numbers and that a bunch of people in the 60's to 70's played them and recorded with them on famous records. The artist makes the guitar. 70's guitars are generally considered as crap, but people want Adam Jones' Silverburst. I bet you, had there been more wood left from that fireplace or furniture or whatnot which Brian May made his guitar out of, those log would fetch 6 figures too just because.But in this instance Mike/ATB has been very upfront about the whole process and I don't see why he should disclose his fees - I have a number of guitars on my web site - Purchased from many different sources, including a few from various FB members - I don't show my cost price - As long as I offer a fair product at a fair price with a fair service and consumers accept it, than surely all is hunky dory
The contract of sale is between 2 parties, especially between to private individuals, it's not anyone else's business, and not your business to know about the transaction or its details. They can reveal as much or as little of it as they want. 3rd parties have no right to ask for more. ATB is not a publicly-traded company, they do not need to disclose their financial records to its shareholders or us.
Why ATB telling us the tale? PR.
But how much they want to tell, their decision, we can believe it, or not, we can speculate, we can ask but we have no right to expect an answer.
The only other person who know the answer is the taxman.
it was last played in 1970
it has been refretted
it needs a refret
it’s had the pickups rewound
the bridge posts are snapped
the Bigsby has extensive wear and is missing the arm
they “don’t know” if it works
its filthy yet it’s been inside a case
Im sorry… but in 1967 when it was allegedly purchased for £50, it was seven years old. When retired it was 10.
Conveniently, it’s a serial number that hasn’t been registered before (even in Gibson’s log?) but there are bursts either side of the number.
Am i the only one suspicious about it?
I am feeling very Victor Meldew today but am still trying to find the incredible part of the story...
A random nobody buys a Les Paul in 67 after seeing Clapton play one (probably would be bought a Strat instead had Clapton played a Strat on stage).
Isn’t that almost every story of every young guitarist ever told on planet earth?
How is that a great story? It’s the most generic, boring one that we all have. Or is it the story of the Antique Roadshow-esq part where he paid only £50? But that was the market price back then. It’s the same story as someone getting a bitcoin for £20 10 years ago too?
Am I missing something?
Plus, yet another Burst surfaces, only log books for like 800 or so but we have like almost 2000 known ones. I dunno, i am feeling very Meldew!
(formerly miserneil)