John Lennon's Missing Framus 12 String - Help required to raise nearly $3 million - Sold

Stuob · April 27

Exactly. How did it go from a Beatles guitar to somebodies attic worth nothing and back to a Beatles guitar?

jonnyburgo · April 27

The Auctioneers description probably reads "The action is a little high but sounds great for slide" Guitarist code for "piece of shit"

Supportact · April 27

2000 for the Framus.

guitarjack66 · April 27

I suspect that the people who 'discovered' it knew Lennon or his family and it was given to them as a favour or for a gig and he wasn't arsed about taking it back later. It's not as if he was short of guitars was it?

OilCityPickups · April 27

jonnyburgo said:

The Auctioneers description probably reads "The action is a little high but sounds great for slide" Guitarist code for "piece of shit"

That's sort of what I'd expect for a twelve string that's around the same age as me - I doubt it would have been stored with the strings slackened, so it's probably collapsed inwards to some degree. It's not as if anyone's going to buy it to play is it?

AlbertC · April 27

Stuob said:

Exactly. How did it go from a Beatles guitar to somebodies attic worth nothing and back to a Beatles guitar?

If you read the article it tells you

guitars4you · May 29

It sold for 2,857,000 dollars

Philly_Q · May 29

guitars4you said:

It sold for 2,857,000 dollars

That's mental.

Kittyfrisk · May 29

Philly_Q said:

guitars4you said:

It sold for 2,857,000 dollars

That's mental.

I know, an utter bargain.
I missed the bidding as I had dentist's appointment, but would have gone to 3 million, no problem.

rossi · May 29

As I was there at the time i always though Framus were shit.Enlighten me .

Kurtis · May 29

rossi said:

As I was there at the time i always though Framus were shit.Enlighten me .

The Beatles were quite big back in the day apparently.

guitars4you · May 30

rossi said:

As I was there at the time i always though Framus were shit.Enlighten me .

No need to enlighten you - You got it right - It might be a forgotten and important piece of Beatles history but I'm sure it will be a dog to play based on many other Framus Guitars I've seen and handled over the years - If you've played a Hofner F hole arch top box then you'll have an idea as what these old European Guitars are like - Nostalgia is often their best asset

TTony · May 30

guitars4you said:

It sold for 2,857,000 dollars

When's the NGD thread?

AlbertC · May 30

Kind of illustrates that it's not about the quality of the tools you use, it's how you use them.
The sound of it obviously had an appeal to The Beatles and I don't recall anyone previously complaining about the acoustic guitar tone on the songs it was used on

guitars4you · May 30

AlbertC said:

Kind of illustrates that it's not about the quality of the tools you use, it's how you use them.
The sound of it obviously had an appeal to The Beatles and I don't recall anyone previously complaining about the acoustic guitar tone on the songs it was used on

That is true and obviously both musicians and producers had access to far less 'quality' back then compared with today - As such they learned to 'master their craft' - You have to remember Sgt Peppers was produced on a far less sophisticated range of equipment than many can utilise today in their 'man cave'

But in many cases, John's skill was in writing the song and not about trying to be a 'master guitarist'

rossi · May 30

AlbertC said:

Kind of illustrates that it's not about the quality of the tools you use, it's how you use them.
The sound of it obviously had an appeal to The Beatles and I don't recall anyone previously complaining about the acoustic guitar tone on the songs it was used on

Not sure the moan was about the sound .I had Hofners .,Club 60 and V3 ,and they sounded great but they were clunky to play .As soon as anyone got enough dough together they went up to American guitars like Fender and Gibson,Gretsch and Rickenbacker .

mark123 · May 30

I still cannot see the grain evidence to say it was the " one" how have the auction house blagged it as the " one"???

Musicwolf · May 30

mark123 said:

I still cannot see the grain evidence to say it was the " one" how have the auction house blagged it as the " one"???

If people believe that it's John Lennon's guitar then it's worth $3m, if they don't then it is only good for firewood - such is the human condition.

CaseOfAce · May 30

AlbertC said:

Kind of illustrates that it's not about the quality of the tools you use, it's how you use them.
The sound of it obviously had an appeal to The Beatles and I don't recall anyone previously complaining about the acoustic guitar tone on the songs it was used on

...as illustrated in the Get Back documentary where 4 loveable scamps from Liverpool roll in, pick up whatever of the handful of instruments was at hand on the soundstage or in the studio and proceed to craft timeless pop classics still being listened to today.

God - weren't the 60s great?!

AlbertC · May 30

mark123 said:

I still cannot see the grain evidence to say it was the " one" how have the auction house blagged it as the " one"???

What kind of smoking gun evidence are you expecting to see?
A renowned auction house is not going to sell something as high profile as this without looking into the back story and provenance of how it came to be with the seller.

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