Les paul low end flub

brooom

I like alnico III low wind pickups on les pauls to help with low end.

FelineGuitars

I have worked long and hard to get Les Pauls to sound tighter and more defined with less low end mush and a better/wider frequency range .

Certain hardware choices, and Pickup choices etc can help
Here are my top 3 LP tighteners:

1) Fit an Earvana nut
2)Try changing the tailpiece to lightweight aluminium

3) Choose a pickup that has slightly less low end - a great example is BKP Riff Raff or Oil City Pat '63 (both still great PAF types - or Pat Number pickups to be more specific, but with a tighter less flubby bottom end)

thegummy

FelineGuitars said:

I have worked long and hard to get Les Pauls to sound tighter and more defined with less low end mush and a better/wider frequency range .

Certain hardware choices, and Pickup choices etc can help
Here are my top 3 LP tighteners:

1) Fit an Earvana nut
2)Try changing the tailpiece to lightweight aluminium

3) Choose a pickup that has slightly less low end - a great example is BKP Riff Raff or Oil City Pat '63 (both still great PAF types - or Pat Number pickups to be more specific, but with a tighter less flubby bottom end)

Just out of interest, may I ask if you would say the BKP Mule also has the right amount of low end or not so much compared to the Riff Raff?

daveyh

Id be definitely interested in the Riff Raff, I’be just discovered the Cobras for strat

FelineGuitars

thegummy said:

FelineGuitars said:

I have worked long and hard to get Les Pauls to sound tighter and more defined with less low end mush and a better/wider frequency range .

Certain hardware choices, and Pickup choices etc can help
Here are my top 3 LP tighteners:

1) Fit an Earvana nut
2)Try changing the tailpiece to lightweight aluminium

3) Choose a pickup that has slightly less low end - a great example is BKP Riff Raff or Oil City Pat '63 (both still great PAF types - or Pat Number pickups to be more specific, but with a tighter less flubby bottom end)

Just out of interest, may I ask if you would say the BKP Mule also has the right amount of low end or not so much compared to the Riff Raff?

The Mule has a touch more low end to my ears than the riff raff - more windings and the A5 in the RR gives a more potent top end than the A4 in the mule.

But do also do things to affect the acoustic (unplugged) tone too as it will translate when plugged in

The pickup is a filter more than anything.

wrinkleygit

One thing I have always done to my Lp's is to rotate the neck pickup thro' 180 degrees to bring the pole pieces closer to the bridge ( this doesn't put the pups out of phase you need to swap magnets to do that ) to my ears it brightens things up a little & costs nothing to try.

daveyh

wrinkleygit said:

One thing I have always done to my Lp's is to rotate the neck pickup thro' 180 degrees to bring the pole pieces closer to the bridge ( this doesn't put the pups out of phase you need to swap magnets to do that ) to my ears it brightens things up a little & costs nothing to try.

Isn’t this basically the Peter Green mod?

ICBM

daveyh said:

Isn’t this basically the Peter Green mod?

No, that needs the pickup phase-reversed as well.

The phase is by far the bigger part of it.