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  • paganskinspaganskins Frets: 161
    John_A said:
    The inability to call up a snapshot would be much missed, keep an eye on it though, there may be a firmware update, and format-wise it looks great
    I suppose you could use the 3 on-board footswitches for snapshots and the HB midi thing for everything else. But yeah given they've got presets for other modellers an update for stomp doesn't seem unfeasible.
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  • damodaidamodai Frets: 32
    I already have one of the meloaudio midi commander  (the mp-100 is a rebadge for thomann) . I'm hoping for a firmware update so I can use it with HX Stomp or perhaps an editor programme would expose this function ?       
    Also  note that you can only power it via battery or USB.   
    Bad trade with spenitele aka Spencer Couzens . 
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  • smudge_ladsmudge_lad Frets: 223

    John_A said:
    The inability to call up a snapshot would be much missed, keep an eye on it though, there may be a firmware update, and format-wise it looks great
    I suppose you could use the 3 on-board footswitches for snapshots and the HB midi thing for everything else. But yeah given they've got presets for other modellers an update for stomp doesn't seem unfeasible.
    This is how I have mine set up - snapshots for clean, dirty and boost and my MC6 controls the rest of the blocks in the patch.

    Slightly restrictive for calling up snapshots from other patches though, but can work around it if I really tried to figure it all out

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  • danishbacondanishbacon Frets: 545
    "Accurate modeling of existing physical devices that we love is certainly a good goal. But we shouldn't let that get in the way of innovation that helps produce new, different, and possibly better sounds. In the old days, amp designers would have loved to be free of some of the engineering compromises they had to make. We don't necessarily need to make those same compromises in the digital domain. There is certainly magic in the results they produced with those amps, speakers and cabinets. But maybe there's a new world out there waiting for us to explore."

    From a line6 thread on IR.

    Question for HX stomp users and, more broadly, modelling users. Have you experienced this ''new world" and what does it sound like? In other words, what can you do tonally, with a modeller that is simply not possible with a traditional combo/stack (leaving FX aside).

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  • shuikitshuikit Frets: 163

    Question for HX stomp users and, more broadly, modelling users. Have you experienced this ''new world" and what does it sound like? In other words, what can you do tonally, with a modeller that is simply not possible with a traditional combo/stack (leaving FX aside).

    I run into two amps each with a different ir which is a blend of multiple mics, while this is very possible in the real world it certainly isn't practical, easy, or affordable!
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  • drwiddlydrwiddly Frets: 710

    Question for HX stomp users and, more broadly, modelling users. Have you experienced this ''new world" and what does it sound like? In other words, what can you do tonally, with a modeller that is simply not possible with a traditional combo/stack (leaving FX aside).

    With an Axe FX for examp!e, it possible to set up an amp model with the correct set of virtual valves and then change them to a different set. In the real world that might be possible with rebiasing but not always. You could then set up patches using these differently valved models and switch between them. Not always possible or practical in real life.
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  • TimmyOTimmyO Frets: 3897
    "Accurate modeling of existing physical devices that we love is certainly a good goal. But we shouldn't let that get in the way of innovation that helps produce new, different, and possibly better sounds. In the old days, amp designers would have loved to be free of some of the engineering compromises they had to make. We don't necessarily need to make those same compromises in the digital domain. There is certainly magic in the results they produced with those amps, speakers and cabinets. But maybe there's a new world out there waiting for us to explore."

    From a line6 thread on IR.

    Question for HX stomp users and, more broadly, modelling users. Have you experienced this ''new world" and what does it sound like? In other words, what can you do tonally, with a modeller that is simply not possible with a traditional combo/stack (leaving FX aside).

    I don’t think it’s revolutionary but Jason Sadites’ trick of splitting the signal into low and high bands and adjusting crossover point and relative levels is really useful - so much so L6 are adding it as a feature/block to do even more easily. But even without that it’s an example of the ease with which you can do stuff to a signal path to achieve a goal 
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  • paganskinspaganskins Frets: 161
    Has anyone had any success running 2 expression pedals and/or momentary switches with their stomps using a y insert cable - trs to 2 x ts?

    I was having a play tonight and was getting exp 1 and 2 both controlling each other’s assigned parameters. 

    Also a momentary footswitch would only engage briefly on release. 

    Any ideas?


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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 2248
    Paul Hindmarsh recently posted this, sounds fab to me


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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2766

    Has anybody downsized from an LT to a stomp to integrate back into a pedalboard?

    I’m thinking of doing so as I use my small pedal board more but like the Helix as a recording and backup option.  Plus although I generally prefer pedals a ‘Swiss army knife’ option of the stomp would be good.

    Just seems a big jump in functionality, trying to work out if I would regret it.....
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  • redrighthandredrighthand Frets: 701
    edited February 9
    Just picked up one of these and have Been having some fun. Am playing through some studio monitors so playing with dual amps and stereo effects. Lots of fun.  

    So far I’ve downloded a few custom tones and been using a couple that sound good as a basis to start tweaking.  I am amazed at how awful some of the stock presets sound mind you. Not sure if that’s my monitors or what. Not a problem though as it’s very capable of sounding ace. :-)

    Loving the size too and can see how I would make it work live as an fx only unit  - probably using snapshots. Though I might invest in some of those big pedal button things to make it easier to navigate with my size 12s.
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  • Cabicular said:
    Yeah saw the link to that earlier.

    Or with one of these as a very lightweight stereo rig - though based on comments on the earlier thread it might be too quiet?

    https://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-dept/electric-guitar-amps/guitar-cabs/2x12-guitar-cabs/matrix-amplification-neolight-nl212-compact-2x12-guitar-cab
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  • One other thing I’ll add - you do have to choose carefully with only having 6 slots, especially when using dual amps and IRs. 

    However while this sounds a bit cliched, it really is quite liberating to have less choice than what comes with a regular Helix.  I had a full fat one a while back and the amount of options and paths is huge fun - however it does get distracting - I found myself wanting some distortion then auditioning every pedal, combinations of pedals, different pedal orders and paths, not to mention amp gain - it’s never ending.

    Also the ability to control almost every parameter with snapshots provides a lot of flexibility even with limited blocks.


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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2766

    One other thing I’ll add - you do have to choose carefully with only having 6 slots, especially when using dual amps and IRs. 

    However while this sounds a bit cliched, it really is quite liberating to have less choice than what comes with a regular Helix.  



    Think I’m going to sell my LT and go for a stomp for this reason.
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  • Cheap expression pedal options/opinions - what works and what doesn't with the HX Stomp?

    I'm looking for something to use very sporadically - probably no more than 2 songs in my band's setlist would use either wah or volume effects. I'd only need to use one effect at a time, so doesn't need to be too fancy.

    I understand the Mission Engineering one is the bee's knees for the Helix, but £150 is way more than I'm wanting to spend. I've seen them ranging from £14 for the M-Audio EX-P and then at various price points all the way up to £150. However, I have no clue what is or isn't compatible.

    What have you guys tried and had success (or otherwise) with?
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  • paganskinspaganskins Frets: 161
    Cheap expression pedal options/opinions - what works and what doesn't with the HX Stomp?

    I'm looking for something to use very sporadically - probably no more than 2 songs in my band's setlist would use either wah or volume effects. I'd only need to use one effect at a time, so doesn't need to be too fancy.

    I understand the Mission Engineering one is the bee's knees for the Helix, but £150 is way more than I'm wanting to spend. I've seen them ranging from £14 for the M-Audio EX-P and then at various price points all the way up to £150. However, I have no clue what is or isn't compatible.

    What have you guys tried and had success (or otherwise) with?
    The m-audio works and seems fine to me, the only real downside I can see is it’s pre-wired with a straight jack and a long lead. 
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  • siremoonsiremoon Frets: 614
    edited February 10
    redrighthand said:
     So far I’ve downloded a few custom tones and been using a couple that sound good as a basis to start tweaking.  I am amazed at how awful some of the stock presets sound mind you. Not sure if that’s my monitors or what. Not a problem though as it’s very capable of sounding ace. :-)

    It's not your monitors.  It's become almost a standing joke that the factory presets are awful.  I've always found the way that works best for me is to start with just an amp and a cab and build up from there. 
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  • siremoon said:
    redrighthand said:
     So far I’ve downloded a few custom tones and been using a couple that sound good as a basis to start tweaking.  I am amazed at how awful some of the stock presets sound mind you. Not sure if that’s my monitors or what. Not a problem though as it’s very capable of sounding ace. :-)

    It's not your monitors.  It's become almost a standing joke that the factory presets are awful.  I've always found the way that works best for me is to start with just an amp and a cab and build up from there. 
    Yeah agreed. Though I’ve found that by auditioning other people’s  patches I’m finding some stuff I wouldn’t have otherwise. - like what adding a compressor at the end of the chain can do for example.
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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2766

    So, my LT has now gone, so thinking of a stomp for fx only integrating into a pedalboard (and as amp backup if required)

    How are people doing on using it this way and how do you have it set up?  Any issues or are yhe stomps integrating with pedalboards well?

    What external switches/controls are you using?
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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2766

    Okay stomp now ordered...
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