The Jump/Swing Blues Thread

edenfield99

@trude Looks about right to me, here’s a couple of the ones I’ve created

https://open.spotify.com/user/edenfield99/playlist/4Z8F3q59NvWtdLppqfmFBJ?si=B5_RAJAnSsWs_1C4DrVBKw

https://open.spotify.com/user/edenfield99/playlist/0bzKtJC7L6PLC47cBIxkWp?si=0c4H6GPyQ7mND_UE_DaB-w

And some more modern choices

https://open.spotify.com/user/edenfield99/playlist/2IKZ44YU2XLccgAt1LHzJj?si=pI5LlFkvRPWbh_SRbTQ0AA

Trude

@edenfield99 ; - nice work sir, thanks!

edenfield99

Let's try and keep this conversation going...what gear are people using to play this music? My main gear is

Guitars - '64 Epiphone Sorrento, '78 Ibanez 2635 or Gretsch Jet

Amps - Vintage47 Mighty Mini or Vintage47 Ric

Effects - Nocturne Jr Barnyard, JHS Milkman, Crazy Tube Circuits White Whale (amongst other options for the basics of pre-amp/boost, delay, reverb and tremolo). This will change shortly though as I've bought the Vintage47 tube reverb so once that's delivered I'll make some changes.

NPP

FWIW (i.e. not all that much) I get sounds that satisfy me (unlike my playing, but that wasn't the question) from the following:

Guitars - I'm not sure this is really so important, given the wide variety of both well-known and highly obscure instruments used by the original artists. I use an Aria jazzbox modified with Oil City HB-sized P90s, and a '79 Strat with an Oil City Tele bridge pickup, either on the bridge or neck and bridge positions

Amps - I only have a Tweed Champ clone which has a very good base tone for this kind of stuff but slightly too much bass for my liking

Effects - the Champ doesn't seem to like very many drive pedals but gets along well with a Formula no. 5 clone. I usually keep the drive very low, and also roll down the guitar volume. I find tremolo works well for this type of music, and use a Catalinbread Pareidolia harmonic trem. Finally, I have TC delay that I sometimes use, set to a slapback tape echo, and a Mooer Yellow Comp that I may use when not using the drive.  

DB1

Amps - I have a Blues Jr and a Carr Sportsman. The V47 Mighty Mini needs attention, so I can't really count that. The 'swing' side - the 1938 ES-150 and the 1948 ES-300. The 'jump' stuff - an ES-295 reissue, an ES-5 Switchmaster reissue, the 1968 ES-330, and the 1955 ES-125 are the ones really. I manage to make all of them sound terrible, too! I just use a bit of reverb.

I fancy a Jr Barnyard, and either a bigger V47 amp, or the Nocturne Moonshine '39 or the Elektra, which looks great. I have to find a bit of room (and cash) first, though....

edenfield99

I think I could do with a bigger V47 amp (the twin supreme) and keep nearly pulling the trigger on one but I need some proper gigs, more money and more room before I can justify it. Anyway if I needed a bigger amp for a bigger gig I have the Barnyard and a Louis Electric Buster which together would give me the sound anyway...I need help, I just want more stuff! 

DB1

I'd love to hear the Jr Barnyard in action, I must admit. It might negate the 'need' for V47 (probably the Gibson 185 clone)

Jalapeno

Use my relic'd parts Tele, with a Mojo pickup set and/or Gretsch New Yorker with DeArmond Rhythm Chief 1000 pickup on a stick

Fender Pro Junior - much better than a Blues Junior. Can do cleans and is insanely loud. Much more "Fendery" than the BJ.

For Gypsy stuff I use the AER60 amp with the Gretsch or my maccaferri style acoustic with a Peche a la Mouche pickup.

mattacjones

edenfield99 said:

@trude Looks about right to me, here’s a couple of the ones I’ve created

https://open.spotify.com/user/edenfield99/playlist/4Z8F3q59NvWtdLppqfmFBJ?si=B5_RAJAnSsWs_1C4DrVBKw

https://open.spotify.com/user/edenfield99/playlist/0bzKtJC7L6PLC47cBIxkWp?si=0c4H6GPyQ7mND_UE_DaB-w

And some more modern choices

https://open.spotify.com/user/edenfield99/playlist/2IKZ44YU2XLccgAt1LHzJj?si=pI5LlFkvRPWbh_SRbTQ0AA

Kid Ramos is just awesome ...

NPP

sorry to be very thick and somewhat behind the times* (but perhaps on a jump blues thread this is just about permitted) - but how does Spotify work? Is it a paid service? 

*I readily admit this is worth a LOL or two

edenfield99

NPP said:

sorry to be very thick and somewhat behind the times* (but perhaps on a jump blues thread this is just about permitted) - but how does Spotify work? Is it a paid service? 

*I readily admit this is worth a LOL or two

Yes, you have to pay (there used to be a free option but I don't know whether that's still available). It's £9.99 a month for unlimited access, not that expensive when you think about it.

NPP

thanks for the quick response! I try to avoid subscriptions where possible but I'll have a look through the playlist and may buy a CD or two.

billzabozo

I am thinking about taking the plunge on a jr Barnyard. 

I usually use a fender d'aquisto for this sort of playing. But I've recently been using my coodercaster teisco goldfoil neck pickup to great effect. 

ZenOvertone

Duke Robillard as mentioned already, one of the keepers of the style, this is a good representation of him doing this really well 

It's worth mentioning that Chris Corcoran runs courses/workshops plus opportunities at Rimshot studios down in Kent to record a track with his band :-) (a friend of mine did this recently)

https://www.chriscorcoranmusic.com/events

https://www.rimshotstudio.co.uk/index.html ;

Phil_aka_Pip

I would listen to a lot more of this stuff but I'm logged on with a laptop and its speakers are crap, they can't reproduce anything with a lower fundamental than a guitar's G string. Neither have I found an audio out socket on the back or sides, otherwise I'd try connecting it to my stereo system

Why is audio on modern technology such utter shite?

guitars4you

Just heard the new Take That single - very influenced by the swing and jump styles of the early 50's - Hard for me to admit that I like any Take That song but this has  a good up temp energy about it

NPP

edenfield99 said:

NPP said:

sorry to be very thick and somewhat behind the times* (but perhaps on a jump blues thread this is just about permitted) - but how does Spotify work? Is it a paid service? 

*I readily admit this is worth a LOL or two

Yes, you have to pay (there used to be a free option but I don't know whether that's still available). It's £9.99 a month for unlimited access, not that expensive when you think about it.

having taken some more time to investigate I found there is indeed a free option, and I'm currently enjoying one of your playlists @edenfield99 . Things did get off to a good start indeed with Big Joe Turner!

PinstripePhil

I use any old P90 gibson with a Jr BarnYard and Quilter amp. Reverb to taste.  

PinstripePhil

BTW, do watch this:
https://youtu.be/2_6uwMIoG6g
And this:
https://youtu.be/R_qlXRXr5yA
Solid gold jump blues info right there. Now go seek out those players tunes. I first did that 10+ years ago and I Have still barely scratched the surface of it all. Best journey ever. :-)

DB1

PinstripePhil said:

I use any old P90 gibson with a Jr BarnYard and Quilter amp. Reverb to taste.  

Why did you choose the Quilter amp (and which model), may I ask? I know that Tommy H uses one, but just wondering what it offers for 'that' sound?

As a low cost alternative to a Gibson P90 guitar, I'd also suggest the Godin 5th Avenue Kingpin. It's surprisingly close to my 1955 ES-125 in tone and feel.