Whiplash (the film)

Sporky

ewal said:

10 minute long drum solo

Felt longer.

Much longer.

darthed1981

stickyfiddle said:

dtr said:

I thought it was weird.  There was definitely a fetishization of lonely woodshedding, with music reduced to a sterile display of technique.  I didn't get any sense of music as a shared and collaborative joy from it, which is what my favourite music films all inspire.  Its the film equivalent of the music you watch in YouTube brag videos, which does partner unsurprisingly well with psychological abuse and relentless suffering.

I think that sounds about right. To me the movie was about dangerous obsession (on both sides) far more than it was about music, despite all the music in it (obviously)

Correct, it's a film about obsession, the Jazz stuff is just the setting.

It's closest counterpart in recent times is Black Swan.

merlin

Like so many films before it that have a huge hidden subject but can't bring themselves to really deal with the issues or leave it to the viewers' imagination (eg The Big Sleep and homosexuality, drug abuse, prostitution and pornography) sometimes due to certificating (censorship), sometimes taste, sometimes studio rules (aka censorship) "Whiplash" was a wonderful study in deeply closeted homo-erotisism. Said nothing to me about Jazz, practise or Music though. 

Rabs

Philly_Q said:

Well who'd have thought this would turn into a heated debate.

Common, its a guitar forum.. we can argue anything

darthed1981

merlin said:

"Whiplash" was a wonderful study in deeply closeted homo-erotisism. Said nothing to me about Jazz, practise or Music though. 

"That's not my tempo... this is the worst blow job I've ever had!"

jrc2806

Rabs said:

Philly_Q said:

Well who'd have thought this would turn into a heated debate.

Common, its a guitar forum.. we can argue anything

:-) I am looking forward to the debate when I recommend the latest Peter Rabbit film! 

fob

ewal

darthed1981 said:

stickyfiddle said:

dtr said:

I thought it was weird.  There was definitely a fetishization of lonely woodshedding, with music reduced to a sterile display of technique.  I didn't get any sense of music as a shared and collaborative joy from it, which is what my favourite music films all inspire.  Its the film equivalent of the music you watch in YouTube brag videos, which does partner unsurprisingly well with psychological abuse and relentless suffering.

I think that sounds about right. To me the movie was about dangerous obsession (on both sides) far more than it was about music, despite all the music in it (obviously)

Correct, it's a film about obsession, the Jazz stuff is just the setting.

It's closest counterpart in recent times is Black Swan.

Black Swan was a comedy surely?

EricTheWeary

fob said:

Had that on whilst making tea. Seemed interesting and fair and although I don’t know a lot of the detail he talks about his general take on it certainly echoes mine.