Cheap, but not nasty

underdog

stimpsonslostson said:

TTBZ said:

PSA relevant to this thread - someone on Facebook is selling one of them pink Gould Shock SG Jrs for £100! I'd have that in a heartbeat if I wasn't imminently moving house. 

https://i.imgur.com/DP63APW.jpg

It's mine. Thanks for the promotion! 
I'm selling my Squier JM Deluxe too.

Bloody love that 

TTBZ

stimpsonslostson said:

TTBZ said:

PSA relevant to this thread - someone on Facebook is selling one of them pink Gould Shock SG Jrs for £100! I'd have that in a heartbeat if I wasn't imminently moving house. 

https://i.imgur.com/DP63APW.jpg

It's mine. Thanks for the promotion! 
I'm selling my Squier JM Deluxe too.

Wondered if it was yours as I've not seen one elsewhere before! Not sure if I have the stage presence to pull off pink but would definitely be a fun one to play in my stoner rock band

1979

Just before Christmas I bought a Sheridan LP Jr doublecut copy for £100 off eBay to play at work and it’s a beaut. The quality is not quite up to my GS1 but it’ certainly a good guitar. Seems you do find good guitars at low price points

https://imgur.com/gallery/KbVqoii

TTBZ

I've just seen Vintage now do a nice looking LP Special for just over £300  - https://www.jhs.co.uk/brands/vintage/vintage-electrics/vintage-reissued-electrics/vintage-v132-reissued-electric-guitar-tobacco-sunburst

SlopeSoarer

TTBZ said:

I've just seen Vintage now do a nice looking LP Special for just over £300  - https://www.jhs.co.uk/brands/vintage/vintage-electrics/vintage-reissued-electrics/vintage-v132-reissued-electric-guitar-tobacco-sunburst

I keep looking at one of these... could it be any good?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quincy-Leeds-electric-guitar-Double-Cutaway-junior-59-shape-jnr-Cherry-Red/173528502294?epid=12023606605&hash=item28671ad016:g:LboAAOSw8D9bl6ti&frcectupt=true

Also

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quincy-Manchester-electric-guitar-LP-Junior-jnr-single-pick-up-p90-sunburst-paul/392110310299?hash=item5b4b98839b:g:eGwAAOSwyXFbl6T~&frcectupt=true

mikeyrob73

TTBZ said:

I've just seen Vintage now do a nice looking LP Special for just over £300  - https://www.jhs.co.uk/brands/vintage/vintage-electrics/vintage-reissued-electrics/vintage-v132-reissued-electric-guitar-tobacco-sunburst

If it’s as good as their vr100lm then it will be a cracking guitar for that money, I stupidly sold mine and spent ages tracking down another one, which has just been painted by the maestro ;-) 

Kittyfrisk

The Radiator. Love the pickup variable blending.

Sarge

Easy choice for me, Westbury Standard from '79-81.
I traded a Westone bass for this and it was the easiest trade ever, it fits me perfectly, looks like a 70s mahogany sideboard according to the wife after I stripped and oiled it. 
A pair of old dimarzio k10 buckers, lp scale, rock solid nd can be had for anything from £80 to £300.
Worth every penny. 

Ted

I am sure that that there are some amazing cheap guitars out there. But what I don't understand is people who stockpile multiple cheap guitars instead of saving up to buy one expensive one. 

I am not rich but I personally would not consider anything less than £500 - the reason being is that I would assume there's something dodgy/nasty about it - unless I picked up from some innocent old lady in a charity shop.

But please don't take this as gospel - as you can see from previous posting I am a bit mad and would not balk at spending £300,000 on a custom built guitar.

Kittyfrisk

Ted said:

I am sure that that there are some amazing cheap guitars out there. But what I don't understand is people who stockpile multiple cheap guitars instead of saving up to buy one expensive one. 

I am not rich but I personally would not consider anything less than £500 - the reason being is that I would assume there's something dodgy/nasty about it - unless I picked up from some innocent old lady in a charity shop.

But please don't take this as gospel - as you can see from previous posting I am a bit mad and would not balk at spending £300,000 on a custom built guitar.

Custom Shops & luthiers will all be fighting for your custom, with the highest price tag they can think of 

By your 'logic'  
a) I can't afford an expensive guitar (clue: I can).
b) My Gibson's aren't good guitars, because I was smart & lucky enough to get them for less than others will pay for them?

By all means spend as much as you need to, in order to make you convinced you got value for money, it's a (vaguely) free country.
I'll just keep laughing all the way to the bank & enjoying my 'cheap' guitars 

Wolfetone

Ted said:

I am sure that that there are some amazing cheap guitars out there. But what I don't understand is people who stockpile multiple cheap guitars instead of saving up to buy one expensive one. 

I am not rich but I personally would not consider anything less than £500 - the reason being is that I would assume there's something dodgy/nasty about it - unless I picked up from some innocent old lady in a charity shop.

But please don't take this as gospel - as you can see from previous posting I am a bit mad and would not balk at spending £300,000 on a custom built guitar.

I would say that the best 'value' guitars are under £500. I would also say that once you start climbing over that, you seriously start to get into the law of diminishing returns in terms of playability and quality.

I guess an example of that would be an Epiphone vs a Gibson of the same model. I cannot be convinced that the fundamental qualities of a Kalamazoo standard LP aren't there in a Korean Epiphone Standard . A modest change of pickups and hardware for an extra few hundred would arguably get you a better guitar in terms of technical specification.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong but having owned many guitars over the last fifty years and had a few shocks good and bad.

I would also say that the rules are different for acoustics though where there's a more linear correlation when money vs quality is judged. 

Ted

I am just saying if you are 18 years old working for burger king are'nt you better off saving for ten weeks to buy something that is probably decent rather than dropping £100 from that weeks wages on something that could be complete garbage.

Thank you for the advice about the differentials on acoustic and electric

Kittyfrisk

'I am just saying if you are 18 years old working for burger king are'nt you better off saving for ten weeks to buy something that is probably decent...'
Yep, that makes complete sense to me too, even though I admit to having absolutely no idea of what BK pays these days   

Good on you.

Ted

Somewhat less than Goldman Sachs

skullfunkerry

Wolfetone said:

Ted said:

I am sure that that there are some amazing cheap guitars out there. But what I don't understand is people who stockpile multiple cheap guitars instead of saving up to buy one expensive one. 

I am not rich but I personally would not consider anything less than £500 - the reason being is that I would assume there's something dodgy/nasty about it - unless I picked up from some innocent old lady in a charity shop.

But please don't take this as gospel - as you can see from previous posting I am a bit mad and would not balk at spending £300,000 on a custom built guitar.

I would say that the best 'value' guitars are under £500. I would also say that once you start climbing over that, you seriously start to get into the law of diminishing returns in terms of playability and quality.

I guess an example of that would be an Epiphone vs a Gibson of the same model. I cannot be convinced that the fundamental qualities of a Kalamazoo standard LP aren't there in a Korean Epiphone Standard . A modest change of pickups and hardware for an extra few hundred would arguably get you a better guitar in terms of technical specification.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong but having owned many guitars over the last fifty years and had a few shocks good and bad.

I would also say that the rules are different for acoustics though where there's a more linear correlation when money vs quality is judged. 

I have said almost exactly this about my old LTD EC1000. The ESP version is almost identical in spec, but around £1800 compared to £800 for the LTD. I've never played one, but I'm pretty sure it's not over twice as good...

Kittyfrisk

Ted said:

Somewhat less than Goldman Sachs

I intended no sarcasm. I genuinely have no idea what BK et al, pay, but I'll bet it is minimum wage or close.
I still feel fury over the way that the 'system' screws good people over & rewards total useless corrupt bastards, possibly including Goldman Sachs (insert legal disclaimer here). I'm just a working bloke who stuck at it long enough to squirrel away a few quid despite everything. Guitars are my indulgence, particularly bargains 

Ted

It's an off topic discussion but it is probably way more stressful to work for Goldman than BK

mbe

Keep it cheap but not nasty guys. This is not a poverty porn thread for the better heeled members either.

TheMarlin

skullfunkerry said:

Wolfetone said:

Ted said:

I am sure that that there are some amazing cheap guitars out there. But what I don't understand is people who stockpile multiple cheap guitars instead of saving up to buy one expensive one. 

I am not rich but I personally would not consider anything less than £500 - the reason being is that I would assume there's something dodgy/nasty about it - unless I picked up from some innocent old lady in a charity shop.

But please don't take this as gospel - as you can see from previous posting I am a bit mad and would not balk at spending £300,000 on a custom built guitar.

I would say that the best 'value' guitars are under £500. I would also say that once you start climbing over that, you seriously start to get into the law of diminishing returns in terms of playability and quality.

I guess an example of that would be an Epiphone vs a Gibson of the same model. I cannot be convinced that the fundamental qualities of a Kalamazoo standard LP aren't there in a Korean Epiphone Standard . A modest change of pickups and hardware for an extra few hundred would arguably get you a better guitar in terms of technical specification.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong but having owned many guitars over the last fifty years and had a few shocks good and bad.

I would also say that the rules are different for acoustics though where there's a more linear correlation when money vs quality is judged. 

I have said almost exactly this about my old LTD EC1000. The ESP version is almost identical in spec, but around £1800 compared to £800 for the LTD. I've never played one, but I'm pretty sure it's not over twice as good...

They are great guitars. The LTD 1000 SG is a fantastic guitar (the one with SD pickups, not EMG’s)...

vonLayzonfon

Ted said:

I am sure that that there are some amazing cheap guitars out there. But what I don't understand is people who stockpile multiple cheap guitars instead of saving up to buy one expensive one. 

I am not rich but I personally would not consider anything less than £500 - the reason being is that I would assume there's something dodgy/nasty about it - unless I picked up from some innocent old lady in a charity shop.

But please don't take this as gospel - as you can see from previous posting I am a bit mad and would not balk at spending £300,000 on a custom built guitar.

As I have mentioned in the £20k thread, for me £500 is the sweet spot. Anything over that doesn't represent a worthwhile investment for me.

And yes, I have more than several, but as somone who plays in a covers band whose set list often has songs in a few different tunings, it's far slicker to have a guitar for each tuning on stage next to me than dicking about retuning between songs. 

And being cheaper, I'm not desperately worried about them becoming 'road worn' through use or accident, like I would be with a more expensive guitar.

Horses for courses.

But many new electric guitars below the £500 mark are perfectly decent and servicable instruments these days.