Danny Baker

bacchanalian

Philly_Q said:

Now, I just hope they don't fill his Saturday morning slot with two more hours of Colin fucking Murray.

Steady on, nothing wrong with people from Northern Ireland 

Philly_Q

bacchanalian said:

Philly_Q said:

Now, I just hope they don't fill his Saturday morning slot with two more hours of Colin fucking Murray.

Steady on, nothing wrong with people from Northern Ireland 

Absolutely nothing to do with where he's from. 

He's just another full-of-his-own-importance, friend-of-the-stars, one-of-the-lads, bit-o'-banter, aren't-I-hilarious twat.  Not unlike Danny Baker himself.

WiresDreamDisasters

Bridgehouse said:

If someone posted the same image on here and it was flagged I suspect it would be removed, warnings issued and possibly more, regardless of the intention behind it 

So are you telling me if I posted that picture and said "what a cute little monkey" you'd warn me for it and possibly ban me?

That sounds reasonable.

bacchanalian

I went to the same school as Mr Murray but I think he was expelled because he was football riff raff.

I was trying to demonstrate how easy it is to misinterpret something on the internet.

I liked Danny Baker's shows about good albums but he should know better than most how contentious his 'joke' would be.

I don't know if he is racist or not but he is definitely stupid.

tone1

He’s a clever man who should have known better....

tony99

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Bridgehouse

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Bridgehouse said:

If someone posted the same image on here and it was flagged I suspect it would be removed, warnings issued and possibly more, regardless of the intention behind it 

So are you telling me if I posted that picture and said "what a cute little monkey" you'd warn me for it and possibly ban me?

That sounds reasonable.

Nope. As per my post - it’s about context. 

If you’d have posted it and made the same joke as Mr Baker..... it would probably have been flagged. 

Post it and say “what a cute little monkey” and it’s very unlikely to get flagged.

WiresDreamDisasters

Bridgehouse said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Bridgehouse said:

If someone posted the same image on here and it was flagged I suspect it would be removed, warnings issued and possibly more, regardless of the intention behind it 

So are you telling me if I posted that picture and said "what a cute little monkey" you'd warn me for it and possibly ban me?

That sounds reasonable.

Nope. As per my post - it’s about context. 

If you’d have posted it and made the same joke as Mr Baker..... it would probably have been flagged. 

Post it and say “what a cute little monkey” and it’s very unlikely to get flagged.

Okay cool.

roberty

Alan Sugar did something similar a while back. Looks like a generational thing to me.  These men are so out of touch

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/09/people-asking-lord-sugar-wasnt-sacked-bbc-racist-tweet-like-danny-baker-9469506/

Strat_a_tat_tat

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Got some bad news for you @tony99 ... the English language is constantly evolving...  the Oxford dictionary now includes two definitions for 'literally'.  One is the conventional/traditional use of the adverb... but there's now also an 'informal' definition - where the word is 'used for emphasis while not being literally true' - and they give the example: 'I was literally blown away...'

tony99

Strat_a_tat_tat said:

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Got some bad news for you @tony99 ... the English language is constantly evolving...  the Oxford dictionary now includes two definitions for 'literally'.  One is the conventional/traditional use of the adverb... but there's now also an 'informal' definition - where the word is 'used for emphasis while not being literally true' - and they give the example: 'I was literally blown away...'

Not really bad news that though is it?Not literally.

Philly_Q

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Sorry, I wasn't really commenting on your comment, just using it to reference the "threw me under the bus" bit, literal or metaphorical.  Of course you were right.

tony99

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Sorry, I wasn't really commenting on your comment, just using it to reference the "threw me under the bus" bit, literal or metaphorical.  Of course you were right.

Yay!! Kiss my face!!

Strat_a_tat_tat

tony99 said:

Strat_a_tat_tat said:

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Got some bad news for you @tony99 ... the English language is constantly evolving...  the Oxford dictionary now includes two definitions for 'literally'.  One is the conventional/traditional use of the adverb... but there's now also an 'informal' definition - where the word is 'used for emphasis while not being literally true' - and they give the example: 'I was literally blown away...'

Not really bad news that though is it?Not literally.

Haha
You win!

Philly_Q

bacchanalian said:

I went to the same school as Mr Murray but I think he was expelled because he was football riff raff.

I was trying to demonstrate how easy it is to misinterpret something on the internet.

All I did was mention Colin Murray's name, I don't think there was even a hint of a reference, positive or negative, to the fact he's Northern Irish.  But understood, you were making a point.

Hopefully my future BBC radio career is safe, although I'm unlikely to be invited on to Fighting Talk.

Philly_Q

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Philly_Q said:

tony99 said:

Also he said they "literally threw me under a bus"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/unrepentant-danny-baker-gives-first-16249600

I'll stake my trousers that's not true

The "threw me under a bus" comment suggests he feels he's been used by the BBC as some kind of scapegoat, but it's a situation entirely of his own making.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. 

I suppose that means I was right and they didn't "literally" throw him under a bus.

They "metaphorically" threw him under a bus.

Sorry, I wasn't really commenting on your comment, just using it to reference the "threw me under the bus" bit, literal or metaphorical.  Of course you were right.

Yay!! Kiss my face!!

Not today thanks.

Emp_Fab

There are far too many people on here saying they agree with his dismissal for reasons not to do with the tweet such as personal dislike.  Jumping on the ‘burn him’ bandwagon because you don’t like him or his performance is a shitty thing to do.

My issue is with the reason he has been dismissed.  He made a perfectly acceptable comment about the new Royal baby but, by virtue of the fact that the phrase “performing monkey”, used to describe a person who is paraded for the entertainment of the public, just happens to include the word “monkey” which IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTEXT can be used as a derogatory word for black people, everyone loses their shit!  “Oh My God!! - He was referring to the skin colour of his mother.... or maybe her mother.... somebody’s skin colour anyway!  Oh the shame!!  Banish him! (...and don’t forget to notice how pious and beyond criticism I am for pointing the finger at him!)”.  No.  Dickhead.  He was using the term in the context of a performing animal.  Nothing more nothing less.

What next?  Anyone using the phrase ‘blackballed’ must lose their livelihood?  Can we say “..and poof! The magician made it vanish!” or is that obviously meant as a slur against homosexuals?  What about “ladies lingerie”?  Is that a sackable phrase, as it’s obviously transphobic!

Context is everything.  It is the intent behind the word that is important, not the arrangement of letters that make up the word.  How the hell has it come to this, when the BBC can tolerate one of their stars raping children and do nothing and now sacking people for using a phrase that contained one word that, in a different context could be used as a racial slur.

Jesus H Christ.

Oh, Sorry, that was Christophobic....

Bloody hysterical neurotics.

Oh, shit...  sorry, “hysterical” comes from the Greek word for ‘uterus’, so that’s sexist!

This is the Jehovah scene from Monty Python come true.  

Fuck, I’ve said Jehovah now....   

fob

blueskunk said:

fob said:

>snip<

It's also interesting how many 'I'd (like to) punch/slap him' comments come up, not just here but all over social media. I've inferred a particular meaning to something he said - that entitles me to violence.

Chat shit, get banged insult me with racist shit expect a slap, if in my company.  Dead easy. 

Essentially just a rewording of my last sentence.

Bridgehouse said:

If someone posted the same image on here and it was flagged I suspect it would be removed, warnings issued and possibly more, regardless of the intention behind it.

This is the whole topic in a nutshell: inference trumps implication.

tony99

Emp_Fab said:

There are far too many people on here saying they agree with his dismissal for reasons not to do with the tweet such as personal dislike.  Jumping on the ‘burn him’ bandwagon because you don’t like him or his performance is a shitty thing to do.

My issue is with the reason he has been dismissed.  He made a perfectly acceptable comment about the new Royal baby but, by virtue of the fact that the phrase “performing monkey”, used to describe a person who is paraded for the entertainment of the public, just happens to include the word “monkey” which IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTEXT can be used as a derogatory word for black people, everyone loses their shit!  “Oh My God!! - He was referring to the skin colour of his mother.... or maybe her mother.... somebody’s skin colour anyway!  Oh the shame!!  Banish him! (...and don’t forget to notice how pious and beyond criticism I am for pointing the finger at him!)”.  No.  Dickhead.  He was using the term in the context of a performing animal.  Nothing more nothing less.

What next?  Anyone using the phrase ‘blackballed’ must lose their livelihood?  Can we say “..and poof! The magician made it vanish!” or is that obviously meant as a slur against homosexuals?  What about “ladies lingerie”?  Is that a sackable phrase, as it’s obviously transphobic!

Context is everything.  It is the intent behind the word that is important, not the arrangement of letters that make up the word.  How the hell has it come to this, when the BBC can tolerate one of their stars raping children and do nothing and now sacking people for using a phrase that contained one word that, in a different context could be used as a racial slur.

Jesus H Christ.

Oh, Sorry, that was Christophobic....

Bloody hysterical neurotics.

Oh, shit...  sorry, “hysterical” comes from the Greek word for ‘uterus’, so that’s sexist!

This is the Jehovah scene from Monty Python come true.  

Fuck, I’ve said Jehovah now....   

What have I missed here? 

It was a pic of a chimp. It said "royal baby leaves hospital"

 Where did you get the phrase "performing monkey" from?

Philly_Q

Emp_Fab said:

My issue is with the reason he has been dismissed.  He made a perfectly acceptable comment about the new Royal baby but, by virtue of the fact that the phrase “performing monkey”, used to describe a person who is paraded for the entertainment of the public, just happens to include the word “monkey” which IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTEXT can be used as a derogatory word for black people, everyone loses their shit!  “Oh My God!! - He was referring to the skin colour of his mother.... or maybe her mother.... somebody’s skin colour anyway!  Oh the shame!!  Banish him! (...and don’t forget to notice how pious and beyond criticism I am for pointing the finger at him!)”.  No.  Dickhead.  He was using the term in the context of a performing animal.  Nothing more nothing less.

I'm just stating a fact here... that isn't what he did.  He didn't use the word "monkey".  He posted an old photo of a "posh" couple with a small chimpanzee in a suit.  The only words were "Royal baby leaves hospital".