Unpopular Opinion? Megadeth>>>>Metallica

Reverend

To be honest, at the time RIP I came out I saw them more as a safe rock band.

Creed_Clicks

In fairness Dave´s solos are nowhere near as bad as Kerry King´s. Whammy bar delight! What I find very cheesey about Megadeth songs are the sound samples they put into certain tracks over the years, of someone talking, or a door closing etc... 

fretmeister

BloodEagle said:

First 4 Slayer Albums > First 3 Metallica Albums > First 4 Megadeth albums. Anything after 1990 for any of these bands is completely shit

Seasons in the Abyss was excellent!

I really like God Hates Us All too.

No love for Rust in Peace?

fretmeister

thegummy said:

I've only got one Megadeath album and it's in a similar strict thrash metal vein to the earlier Metallica albums.

Did Megadeath go on to make more "songful" material like Metallica on the black album onwards? Or did they stay strictly thrash metal?

If they did I'll need to check it out as I prefer the Metallica stuff that metal purists might call pop music. I do love the earlier stuff too though.

"Risk" and "The World Needs a Hero" were both an attempt to be more commercial.

Neither was very good, and they didn't really understand that as good a guitarist as Mustaine is, he cannot sing.
And I'm a fan. But he can't.

The newest one - Dystopia - is pretty good.

Bidley

RobDavies said:

Bidley said:

Grumpyrocker said:

Firstly Dave has always played lots of the lead stuff on Megadeth songs.

I know - it's mostly tuneless widdle for the sake of widdle.

Grumpyrocker said:

And thirdly some of those very iconic solos have been Dave playing. 

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Mustaine is a very important figure in the metal and guitar world, for me. He's written some classic stuff. But his solos are pants.

Except for all the solos he wrote that Kirk played on Kill em all and RTL.... 

Common misconception - if you listen to the bootlegs of Metallica with Dave, you can hear Dave playing completely different solos, minus the melody that Kirk had. Kirk wrote his own solos. I mean, Dave has never played anything remotely similar to the solos in - say - Creeping Death or No Remorse, so it makes sense.

BloodEagle

fretmeister said:

BloodEagle said:

First 4 Slayer Albums > First 3 Metallica Albums > First 4 Megadeth albums. Anything after 1990 for any of these bands is completely shit

Seasons in the Abyss was excellent!

I really like God Hates Us All too.

No love for Rust in Peace?

Seasons was alright I suppose, about 3 really good tracks - but compared to the first 3 out of this world albums though it was pretty awful - almost like a band doing a pastiche of Slayer. I have to say God Hates Us All was, in my opinion, dreadful - really turgid and unexciting - the lyrics especially are awful - probably their worst album. Rust in Peace(released 1990) was amazing - a completely brilliant album - but Peace Sells was the frist 'thrash' album I ever bought, so my heart will awlays lie with that.  

schrodinger1612

Metallica edge it, though i like both bands. i think their rivalry was good for both parties as they pushed eachother to release some grand spankingly great albums. 

beed84

Here's a cool article on the argument at hand:

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-thursday-death-match-megadeth-vs-metallica

Philly_Q

beed84 said:

Here's a cool article on the argument at hand:

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-thursday-death-match-megadeth-vs-metallica

Thanks, I enjoyed the bit about Death Magnetic.

Bidley

The System Has Failed is a criminally underrated Megadeth album, btw. Kick The Chair is riff-tastic and Truth Be Told is a brilliant bit of songwriting. Better than anything Metallica (and Megadeth themselves, tbh) did post-2000.

LuttiS

Bidley said:

The System Has Failed is a criminally underrated Megadeth album, btw. Kick The Chair is riff-tastic and Truth Be Told is a brilliant bit of songwriting. Better than anything Metallica (and Megadeth themselves, tbh) did post-2000.

Agreed! System has failed is one of my favourite MD albums

Philly_Q

LuttiS said:

Bidley said:

The System Has Failed is a criminally underrated Megadeth album, btw. Kick The Chair is riff-tastic and Truth Be Told is a brilliant bit of songwriting. Better than anything Metallica (and Megadeth themselves, tbh) did post-2000.

Agreed! System has failed is one of my favourite MD albums

@Bidley inspired me to listen to it the other day, first time I've played it for years.  It is a good one.  Wasn't it originally going to be a Mustaine solo album?

DLM

Creed_Clicks said:

What I find very cheesey about Megadeth songs are the sound samples they put into certain tracks over the years, of someone talking, or a door closing etc... 

This is right up your street then!

Seriously: What can't improved by adding more cockerel? Cocker is like bacon!

The System Has Failed:

Vinnie Cool-at-cha once again showing that, yes, he really can play on anything, muthafuckaz!

Poland back in da house doing what only he can do. (Though I suppose Marty pips it with me, and Kiko really is excellent.)

LuttiS

Philly_Q said:

LuttiS said:

Bidley said:

The System Has Failed is a criminally underrated Megadeth album, btw. Kick The Chair is riff-tastic and Truth Be Told is a brilliant bit of songwriting. Better than anything Metallica (and Megadeth themselves, tbh) did post-2000.

Agreed! System has failed is one of my favourite MD albums

@Bidley inspired me to listen to it the other day, first time I've played it for years.  It is a good one.  Wasn't it originally going to be a Mustaine solo album?

Yeah, i think it was but had to do it under megadeth contract..

wikipedia - Originally intended to be a solo album by Mustaine, the record was re-branded with the Megadeth name as a result of contractual obligations owed to Mustaine's publishing company

also 

To date, it is the only Megadeth album where the only certified member of the band was Mustaine. As a result, it is occasionally referred to as a Mustaine solo album.

DLM

beed84 said:

Here's a cool article on the argument at hand:

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-thursday-death-match-megadeth-vs-metallica

Thanks, that was good.

Liked this reference:

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/d0/Snarl_guardian_victory.jpg

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