Brands that are a serious rival to Gibson CS LP?

fretmeister

ESP Custom Shop.

Amazing things. 

Voxman

This Eastman SB59 (I think this one is the vintage 'V' version) looks very impressive - well worth watching & listening to as the guy definitely seems to know what to look for - 100% handmade, solid mahogany body, no weight relief and guaranteed to weigh no more than 7.9lbs, superb build quality, top quality electrics/hardware. Not sure about the price but it's under £2k I think.

Simon_M

So you have 5 Gibson Les Pauls already? Are they not good enough?

Fortheloveofguitar

Yes I have 5 but there’s always room for more. I also have 4 strats too and an Ibanez acoustic  

The Les paul models I have aren’t 5 standards or the same model, they’re all completely different models from R8 to BFG and CS Axcess so all offer something completely different with the Les Paul theme

terada

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Yes I have 5 but there’s always room for more. I also have 4 strats too and an Ibanez acoustic  

The Les paul models I have aren’t 5 standards or the same model, they’re all completely different models from R8 to BFG and CS Axcess so all offer something completely different with the Les Paul theme

No need to justify it mate. If you want it then knock yourself out.  

Then once your out cold, start dreaming about the 7th

Simon_M

terada said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Yes I have 5 but there’s always room for more. I also have 4 strats too and an Ibanez acoustic  

The Les paul models I have aren’t 5 standards or the same model, they’re all completely different models from R8 to BFG and CS Axcess so all offer something completely different with the Les Paul theme

No need to justify it mate. If you want it then knock yourself out.  

Then once your out cold, start dreaming about the 7th

Yeah to be fair I wasn’t criticising, just interested. Was talking to the Mrs about having more than one of the same guitar. I’d possibly have another explorer but there’s so much else out there I haven’t tried it seems odd to me to buy the same guitar again. She didn’t seem bothered what I do so that’s a plus I suppose.

mbe

There are some amazing budget-conscious boutique models on ebay,  Quincy and Shine for example.

Jonathanthomas83

Voxman said:

This Eastman SB59 (I think this one is the vintage 'V' version) looks very impressive - well worth watching & listening to as the guy definitely seems to know what to look for - 100% handmade, solid mahogany body, no weight relief and guaranteed to weigh no more than 7.9lbs, superb build quality, top quality electrics/hardware. Not sure about the price but it's under £2k I think.

Just had a look on Peach, and although beautiful guitars, none that I looked at came in below 8.1lbs - which is still light though :-) But the 7.9lbs guarantee thing...?

ThorpyFX

Gassage said:

Ibanez Law suit. I know this because Mark Agassi said so.

what does André's brother know about guitars? surely he's a tennis expert.

Danielsguitars

Jonathanthomas83 said:

Voxman said:

This Eastman SB59 (I think this one is the vintage 'V' version) looks very impressive - well worth watching & listening to as the guy definitely seems to know what to look for - 100% handmade, solid mahogany body, no weight relief and guaranteed to weigh no more than 7.9lbs, superb build quality, top quality electrics/hardware. Not sure about the price but it's under £2k I think.

Just had a look on Peach, and although beautiful guitars, none that I looked at came in below 8.1lbs - which is still light though :-) But the 7.9lbs guarantee thing...?

Not sure what wood they're using but getting lightweight les paul with good mahogany that light is bloody impossible for me, a full thickness carved top is over 1lb, be interesting to find out

ICBM

Danielsguitars said:

Not sure what wood they're using but getting lightweight les paul with good mahogany that light is bloody impossible for me, a full thickness carved top is over 1lb, be interesting to find out

Balsa?




That's not a joke and would be an excellent choice for weight-reducing inserts - Gibson themselves tried it, but they stupidly called it "Chromyte" (based on the biological name for balsa) which made it sound like some sort of synthetic product. They should have just called it 'lightweight hardwood'... because that's exactly what balsa is, not a softwood.

Otherwise it's pretty hard to get a decent Les Paul much under 8lbs unless you either chamber it or use the sort of soft fibrous crap 'mahogany' found in many Chibsons.

Danielsguitars

ICBM said:

Danielsguitars said:

Not sure what wood they're using but getting lightweight les paul with good mahogany that light is bloody impossible for me, a full thickness carved top is over 1lb, be interesting to find out

Balsa?




That's not a joke and would be an excellent choice for weight-reducing inserts - Gibson themselves tried it, but they stupidly called it "Chromyte" (based on the biological name for balsa) which made it sound like some sort of synthetic product. They should have just called it 'lightweight hardwood'... because that's exactly what balsa is, not a softwood.

Otherwise it's pretty hard to get a decent Les Paul much under 8lbs unless you either chamber it or use the sort of soft fibrous crap 'mahogany' found in many Chibsons.

Sepele sounds great and plentiful but too heavy so some lightweight wood to fill a chambered body is a good idea, I'll have to try it one day, good lightweight wood is getting very hard to find now

Kalimna

Didn't Parker use a balsa body, shelled in reinforced CF/glass fibre/plastic (or somesuch product)?
One of these days I must weigh some of my guitars, namely the padauk home-build, the LP Custom (mid 80's, but still fairly heavy!) and the Ryder for comparison. Ive never been particularly interested in the weight, and it's not a spec I would ever look at, but it would be interesting to know.

Adam

sweepy

More than welcome to try my Ryder Les Paul if you want to compare it to yours

https://i.imgur.com/2pGeICC.jpg

RaymondLin

I personally love the PRS SC58, I would never sell it.

terada

Danielsguitars said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

Voxman said:

This Eastman SB59 (I think this one is the vintage 'V' version) looks very impressive - well worth watching & listening to as the guy definitely seems to know what to look for - 100% handmade, solid mahogany body, no weight relief and guaranteed to weigh no more than 7.9lbs, superb build quality, top quality electrics/hardware. Not sure about the price but it's under £2k I think.

Just had a look on Peach, and although beautiful guitars, none that I looked at came in below 8.1lbs - which is still light though :-) But the 7.9lbs guarantee thing...?

Not sure what wood they're using but getting lightweight les paul with good mahogany that light is bloody impossible for me, a full thickness carved top is over 1lb, be interesting to find out

Not sure how they did it, but my r9 is pretty light and all solid. I’ve had the pickups out and they’ve not lied about the thickness of the top etc. 

That said I’ve never seen another that light without chambering. 

RaymondLin

terada said:

Danielsguitars said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

Voxman said:

This Eastman SB59 (I think this one is the vintage 'V' version) looks very impressive - well worth watching & listening to as the guy definitely seems to know what to look for - 100% handmade, solid mahogany body, no weight relief and guaranteed to weigh no more than 7.9lbs, superb build quality, top quality electrics/hardware. Not sure about the price but it's under £2k I think.

Just had a look on Peach, and although beautiful guitars, none that I looked at came in below 8.1lbs - which is still light though :-) But the 7.9lbs guarantee thing...?

Not sure what wood they're using but getting lightweight les paul with good mahogany that light is bloody impossible for me, a full thickness carved top is over 1lb, be interesting to find out

Not sure how they did it, but my r9 is pretty light and all solid. I’ve had the pickups out and they’ve not lied about the thickness of the top etc. 

That said I’ve never seen another that light without chambering. 

Close but no cigar !

darthed1981

[Gibson]

A lot of brands mentioned here aren't authentic.

Play authentic, or we will cut your fucking dicks off and shove it down your throats...

[/Gibson]

ThePrettyDamned

If you want a les Paul with a difference, I played a really nice Les Paul raw power - they came in solid, febder-esque colours and we're made of maple!

Sounds extremely heavy but the one I played was balanced (not light as such, but very balanced and comfy) and they were pretty affordable if I remember rightly. I think they used a thinner body but still had the full fat les Paul hardware (which tbf is the easy bit).