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stickyfiddle

I don't think Physical Graffitti is very good. But HOTH is excellent if you skip Dyer Maker

not_the_dj

Can someone do Deep Purple? I've the mark 2 albums, but is there anything essential after those?

Lixarto

not_the_dj said:

Can someone do Deep Purple? I've the mark 2 albums, but is there anything essential after those?

I don't have time at the moment - about to go out, but in short, listen to "Burn" and "Perfect Strangers".

Octahedron

RE: Deep Purple - Which "mark" does the "Come Taste the Band" album fall under? The 35th anniversary reissue of that album is simply blisteringly delightful to listen to! Honestly, it may be my favourite DP album. The Coverdale/Hughes vocals are great. I know, it's different, cos it's not Gillan, but I really love the album inside/out and back to front! Shirley's remix of the album is great too. So if I was gonna put together a buyer's guide for DP, that'd be in "essentials" along with Machine Head, Burn and Fireball. I also highly rate "Now What?!" (their most recent album)

ICBM

Come Taste The Band is MkIV - Tommy Bolin on guitar.

I can't listen to Deep Purple without Blackmore though - just doesn't work for me.

After MkII I would pick Burn and Perfect Strangers as essential as Lixarto said, and Stormbringer and House Of Blue Light (the last true DP album, for me) as good. There's some good stuff on Stormbringer, but also this is the album where Glenn Hughes tried to take over the band and caused Blackmore to leave. I can't stand Hughes' vocals either, although I like Coverdale.

Phil_aka_Pip said:

Can someone do a Beginner's Guide to Bill Nelson?

@AuldReekie is the man for that I think.

Fazer

my take on Dream Theater would be:

The Best By Miles - Images and Words and Awake

Good Tracks and Worth Getting - Octavarium and A Change of Seasons

Everything else all sounds the same to me, with none of it grabbing me anywhere no matter how many times I tried.
too much of it is just formulaic running up and down scales guitar/bass/keyboard all in unison, followed by the the same cheesy harmonies, and the vocal melodies are always the same and with the same pattern from song to song

Phil_aka_Pip

Deep Purple Mk I The album with the Heironymus Bosch cover is worthwhile, especially April on Side 2, which has some exquisite guitar work - keep turning up the end as it fades out to catch every last note from Ritchie Blackmore.

Octahedron

Fazer said:

my take on Dream Theater would be:

The Best By Miles - Images and Words and Awake

Good Tracks and Worth Getting - Octavarium and A Change of Seasons

Everything else all sounds the same to me, with none of it grabbing me anywhere no matter how many times I tried.
too much of it is just formulaic running up and down scales guitar/bass/keyboard all in unison, followed by the the same cheesy harmonies, and the vocal melodies are always the same and with the same pattern from song to song

Surprised to hear that - have you checked out the new album? 

Fazer

i cant remember, they all blurred into one after a while!
i'll give it a listen later

dchwhite

Octahedron said:

I wish I had Box of Fire. I have the 3 disc Pandora's Box and a couple of singles and oddities here and there. Got "Classics Live 2" the other day for 50 cents hahaha... 

I definitely need more!! I'd love to know more about your Aerosmith collection, @dcwhite - it sounds like you may have "the lot"!! I'm pretty close... but there's so much more out there that I don't have!

You're very kind, but you mustn't give me the excuse to keep boring on about Aerosmith, or none of the other bands will get a look-in And as much of a sad fan as I am (I wasn't joking about the Boneyard guitar, although it is the Epi version), even I would have to say there are only so many Joe Perry albums one man really needs (I seem to have five. Hum...).

I think the only thing I'm really 'missing' as such is the solo album Brad Whitford did - Whitford/St Holmes, I think it was. I will hang on until that turns up at a reasonable price though - I can see it on eBay, but I'm not paying nearly forty pounds for it (any more than I'm paying the £148 someone wants for a Joe Perry tab book ).

IIRC, I'd bought everything up to and including Get a Grip on cassette... I bought the Box of Fire to replace everything with CDs. It was a bit of a hit on the pocket at the time, but I'm glad I did it now (although it's mostly just the albums from their original Columbia contract, there's not much 'previously unreleased') Fifty cents for CL2 is a proper bargain though, nice one

dchwhite

I don't suppose anyone feels like giving their thoughts on Slade? I have Slayed, and it's excellent, but where do I go from there, please?

Fazer

Robin Trower:

the essentials: bridge of sighs, for earth below
they've got the best tracks and fantastic production by matthew fisher, the guitar sounds epic and huge

only just behind, excellent and totally recommended: long misty days, in city dreams, victims of the fury
all the songs and playing are just as good as the first 2, but less epic production on misty days and victims makes them less immersive.
city dreams has a more mellow/pop/funky feel with lots of flange/swirliness.

some really good tracks: caravan to midnight, beyond the mist

everything else might have good bits and pieces but bit of pot luck really.

Phil_aka_Pip

dchwhite said:

I don't suppose anyone feels like giving their thoughts on Slade? I have Slayed, and it's excellent, but where do I go from there, please?

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/17001/slade#latest

Its not a complete Beginners Guide but it might help

equalsql

Fazer said:

Robin Trower:

the essentials: bridge of sighs, for earth below
they've got the best tracks and fantastic production by matthew fisher, the guitar sounds epic and huge

only just behind, excellent and totally recommended: long misty days, in city dreams, victims of the fury
all the songs and playing are just as good as the first 2, but less epic production on misty days and victims makes them less immersive.
city dreams has a more mellow/pop/funky feel with lots of flange/swirliness.

some really good tracks: caravan to midnight, beyond the mist

everything else might have good bits and pieces but bit of pot luck really.

Don't forget the 1975 Robin Trower Live album. Great production, Robin plays like a god and Jimmy Dewar is just beyond compare.

dchwhite

Phil_aka_Pip said:

dchwhite said:

I don't suppose anyone feels like giving their thoughts on Slade? I have Slayed, and it's excellent, but where do I go from there, please?

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/17001/slade#latest

Its not a complete Beginners Guide but it might help

Thanks, Phil I'd seen the thread, and that's (partly) what sparked off my curiosity really - I own and love Slayed, & I can see a few votes for Slade Alive, but I'm not sure where to go after that, so if anyone could advise, I'd be most grateful, ta

Jalapeno

Pink Floyd

Essential
Echoes (EDIT: I meant Meddle)
Piper at the Gate of Dawm

Good
Wish You Were Here
DSOM
The Wall

Novelty (without Waters)
The Division Bell
Pulse

Fans only
pretty much everything else

Let the raging debate begin !

not_the_dj

/\ Nutter 

stickyfiddle

Let's try Pink Floyd again...

Essential:

DSOTM

Wish You Were Here

The Wall

Good:

Meddle

Meh:

Everything else

stickyfiddle

And Radiohead:

Essential:

The Bends

OK Computer
Kid A

In Rainbows

Glastonbury 1997 bootleg

Glastonbury 2003 bootleg

Good:

Amnesiac

I Might Be Wrong

Hail To The Thief

King of Limbs

Fans only:

Pablo Honey

My Iron Lung EP

Com Lag (2plus2isfive)

Fazer

essential - animals