NGD - The heaviest neck in the world

antonyiv

Looks good, doesn't it? But the neck is heavy as hell. Any ideas how to fix it?

In-depth review coming soon. 

Jackobean

Buy a different guitar?

fretmeister

The neck isn't heavy.

Neck dive is a well known problem for that shape because of the strap button placement.

Unless you want to add weights to the body to balance it out there is nothing you can do.

antonyiv

Jackobean said:

Buy a different guitar?

Or replacing the Robo system with lighter tuners and adding a tremolo to increase the weight of the body? 

Your suggestion is still valid if I can't fix that neck dive. 

fretmeister

antonyiv said:

Jackobean said:

Buy a different guitar?

Or replacing the Robo system with lighter tuners and adding a tremolo to increase the weight of the body? 

Your suggestion is still valid if I can't fix that neck dive. 

Definitely remove the Robo system and replace with the lightest tuners you can find. Hipshot or Grovers etc.

Sometimes a Trem only changes things a little because of the amount of wood that you need to remove to fit it, and the TOM bridge you already have is quite heavy too. Won't help as much as you think.

Adding a trem will also kill the resale value if you still don't like it.

Now imagine it was the bass with a far longer neck...


Firebirds are lovely looking but I'd never have one because of the neck dive.

antonyiv

fretmeister said:

Firebirds are lovely looking but I'd never have one because of the neck dive.

I guess you are smarter than me...

I was scared of the neck position because many people complain that the neck is too much to the left. And it is but it takes a bit of playing to adjust to. It is kinda similar to a SG. 

JerkMoans

A self-erecting crane?

antonyiv

JerkMoans said:

A self-erecting crane?

"Trust me, I'm an engineer" type of post.

mbe

Sky-hook?

antonyiv

mbe said:

Sky-hook?

Too expensive, maybe I should just buy a rope and hang it around the neck. 30 minutes before a gig I will arrive on the location just to check the ceiling and tie my rope somewhere there. 

richardhomer

Helium balloons tied to the machine heads?

antonyiv

richardhomer said:

Helium balloons tied to the machine heads?

Cheapest option so far. Thanks! Do you know if I can brand them with Gibson logo?

CloudNine

Hold the neck with your left hand.

antonyiv

CloudNine said:

Hold the neck with your left hand.

I did that for 5 minutes and now my hand hurts. Maybe I should start going to the gym more often after the quarantine? 

CloudNine

antonyiv said:

CloudNine said:

Hold the neck with your left hand.

I did that for 5 minutes and now my hand hurts. Maybe I should start going to the gym more often after the quarantine? 

In that case, my other suggestion involves a series of powerful magnets, but I haven't quite finalised the design yet. Will get back to you asap.

antonyiv

CloudNine said:

antonyiv said:

CloudNine said:

Hold the neck with your left hand.

I did that for 5 minutes and now my hand hurts. Maybe I should start going to the gym more often after the quarantine? 

In that case, my other suggestion involves a series of powerful magnets, but I haven't quite finalised the design yet. Will get back to you asap.

Please design them properly, I don't want the guitars of the other band members to be lifted just because mine has a problem. 

Dan_Halen

Big, thick, grippy, suede strap helps. Also, my SG I sling more to the right rather than out in front. 

CloudNine

antonyiv said:

CloudNine said:

antonyiv said:

CloudNine said:

Hold the neck with your left hand.

I did that for 5 minutes and now my hand hurts. Maybe I should start going to the gym more often after the quarantine? 

In that case, my other suggestion involves a series of powerful magnets, but I haven't quite finalised the design yet. Will get back to you asap.

Please design them properly, I don't want the guitars of the other band members to be lifted just because mine has a problem. 

Maybe too late in the design to accommodate these new requirements, Probably going to need to ask them to buy Firebirds as well..

fretmeister

Strap round the headstock like a folk player?

Hold on - it's a gibson. The headstock will snap off.

Don't do that.


(I do have to say though - what a spectacular colour!)

Mike Lull basses have managed to make a firebird that doesn't neck dive - heavier woods for the body, super light mahogany for the neck, slightly larger body too.

Bass only though, alas.

PhilKing

Some people move the strap to the middle of the neck heel, but I've never really had a problem with my Firebirds, though I do use suede backed straps and all mine have either banjo or Steinberger gearless tuners (https://forum.gibson.com/topic/92424-steinberger-gearless-tuners-on-firebird-better-balance/).  It is a great colour btw.

antonyiv

CloudNine said:

antonyiv said:

CloudNine said:

antonyiv said:

CloudNine said:

Hold the neck with your left hand.

I did that for 5 minutes and now my hand hurts. Maybe I should start going to the gym more often after the quarantine? 

In that case, my other suggestion involves a series of powerful magnets, but I haven't quite finalised the design yet. Will get back to you asap.

Please design them properly, I don't want the guitars of the other band members to be lifted just because mine has a problem. 

Maybe too late in the design to accommodate these new requirements, Probably going to need to ask them to buy Firebirds as well..

That sounds like a plan! Please take the individual preference of each band member in terms of position of the neck and then calculate the optimal weight of a Firebird. Based on this recommendation we will buy only Firebirds with that specific weight.