New Falcon & Winter Soldier Day

Headphones

Don't know about what follows, but this was a bit less...  Lots of stuff - but no banter?

darius

Wow. Shit just got real. That was DARK!

monquixote

Captain America is channelling some serious Homelander vibes.

digitalscream

monquixote said:

Captain America is channelling some serious Homelander vibes.

It occurred to me, while watching today's episode, that Steve Rogers is how America sees itself, but John Walker is how the rest of the world sees America.

I wonder if that's deliberate.

Philly_Q

I keep reading this thread and wondering if I'm going to have to sign up for Disney+...

darius

Philly_Q said:

I keep reading this thread and wondering if I'm going to have to sign up for Disney+...

Or borrow a login. There’s always someone you know who isn’t using all of their 4.
I definitely don’t do this.

Philly_Q

darius said:

Philly_Q said:

I keep reading this thread and wondering if I'm going to have to sign up for Disney+...

Or borrow a login. There’s always someone you know who isn’t using all of their 4.
I definitely don’t do this.

They have 4 logins?  I may have to speak to my brother.

Greatape

I'd wait till it's all out and then get the ubiquitous free trial 

stickyfiddle

digitalscream said:

monquixote said:

Captain America is channelling some serious Homelander vibes.

It occurred to me, while watching today's episode, that Steve Rogers is how America sees itself, but John Walker is how the rest of the world sees America.

I wonder if that's deliberate.

I'm sure it is. 

I'm also convinced every tiny detail is planned meticulously - the way Walker's helmet is just fractional too big, giving a sense of unease while conveying a visual metaphor that the role is too big for the man underneath. And the way the end of ep4 played out is exactly the same move Steve made to end the fight at the end of Civil War, only Steve chose not to make a killing blow. 

Most of all I'm just really enjoying the attempt to show that the "bad guys" have a really clear motivation and really aren't bad guys, just desperate people who see no other option. 

darius

Ep 5

Everybody loves a montage. 2 in one episode!

digitalscream

Whatever that Wakandan present is, I suspect it's going to look absolutely awesome.

DiscoStu

darius said:

Philly_Q said:

I keep reading this thread and wondering if I'm going to have to sign up for Disney+...

Or borrow a login. There’s always someone you know who isn’t using all of their 4.
I definitely don’t do this.

I definitely don't do this either.

Grangousier

Or absolutely, definitely don't get into BitTorrent. No. 

mrkb

Did everyone catch the extra scene in the credits?

digitalscream

mrkb said:

Did everyone catch the extra scene in the credits?

Yep. I don't understand what use it'll be, though, 'cos it's plainly made of the wrong metal.

darius

digitalscream said:

mrkb said:

Did everyone catch the extra scene in the credits?

Yep. I don't understand what use it'll be, though, 'cos it's plainly made of the wrong metal.

I hope he used the historicaly accurate nitro finish

TheMarlin

Grangousier said:

Or absolutely, definitely don't get into BitTorrent. No. 

I absolutely didn’t use a hooky Chinese website, and a tonne of ad blockers and privacy tools. 

Would never do that. 

darthed1981

digitalscream said:

monquixote said:

Captain America is channelling some serious Homelander vibes.

It occurred to me, while watching today's episode, that Steve Rogers is how America sees itself, but John Walker is how the rest of the world sees America.

I wonder if that's deliberate.

Very deliberate, though I'd put it more as two sides of the same coin.

Reminds me of a real story in an article I read about the A-10.  An A-10 pilot over Afghanistan was ordered to fire on a building.  The pilot flew over low, took no fire and reported no sign of any hostiles.  He therefore refused to fire.

His commander, fully aware the pilot was within his rights to refuse what he considered an illegal order, instead ordered a high-flying B1B heavy bomber to destroy the building, which it did with a LGB.

It killed a farmer, his wife, and his two children.  The A-10 pilot, by stopping, thinking and considering that unleashing the terrible destructive power on his aircraft might kill innocent people, was correct.

I think that's what's brilliant about the MCU is that they now have the confidence to run with what they started in Civil War - all this super-powered destruction (like the US military's super-powered destruction) however well-intentioned, has horrific collateral casualties, and if you don't address that you become as bad as the terrorists.

The show is quite clear, the terrorists are bad, but they have a very legitimate beef, and you can't resolve the problems without acknowledging that.

darthed1981

digitalscream said:

mrkb said:

Did everyone catch the extra scene in the credits?

Yep. I don't understand what use it'll be, though, 'cos it's plainly made of the wrong metal.

He knows he isn't the authentic Cap, he isn't Steve Rogers, so he doesn't have an authentic shield...

digitalscream

darthed1981 said:

digitalscream said:

mrkb said:

Did everyone catch the extra scene in the credits?

Yep. I don't understand what use it'll be, though, 'cos it's plainly made of the wrong metal.

He knows he isn't the authentic Cap, he isn't Steve Rogers, so he doesn't have an authentic shield...

My point is...I really hope they don't show it as behaving the same way as the original. As Spidey put it, "that thing doesn't obey the laws of physics".