The Fretboard Running Thread 2023

RedRabbit

Good luck for Sunday @Bidley I'm sure you'll smash it.

Due to a combination of illness and laziness, I've not run for a couple of weeks.  Fully intend to get back to it next week though.  If I don't I've just wasted a good chunk of cash on new shoes and replacing my dying Garmin.

BRISTOL86

Have largely stopped running in favour of cycling as running has been too interfering with my primary goal this year of packing on muscle. But I do miss it! 

2021 was my most active year, just slightly ahead of what I did last year.

Iamnobody

BRISTOL86 said:

Have largely stopped running in favour of cycling as running has been too interfering with my primary goal this year of packing on muscle. But I do miss it! 

2021 was my most active year, just slightly ahead of what I did last year.

That’s a shame if you enjoy it. 

Can’t you find a balance somewhere? 

There must be a sweet spot where a bit of the right type of running will complement building leg muscle, that’d probably be shorter and faster runs. 

Your 10k and 5k times are impressive so you’ve got speed. 

BRISTOL86

Iamnobody said:

BRISTOL86 said:

Have largely stopped running in favour of cycling as running has been too interfering with my primary goal this year of packing on muscle. But I do miss it! 

2021 was my most active year, just slightly ahead of what I did last year.

That’s a shame if you enjoy it. 

Can’t you find a balance somewhere? 

There must be a sweet spot where a bit of the right type of running will complement building leg muscle, that’d probably be shorter and faster runs. 

Your 10k and 5k times are impressive so you’ve got speed. 

Yes it’s not that I have to cut it out altogether. But the intensity and frequency that I’ve been doing just isn’t compatible with the other goals, they’re so contradictory. 

I have hormonal issues that means I’m already hugely disadvantaged in terms of my ability to add muscle mass, so need to prioritise what the main goal is and let this take a backseat for a while!

I’m really enjoying my cycling and find that much easier to moderate intensity and treat it more as a leisure activity than when I run, and it’s much more complimentary than running to the mass building goals! 

Bidley

Thanks for the advice chaps. My partner is sick as a dog in bed, so I've quarantined her in the bedroom! I feel fine so far.

Bod

I'm still taking it easy due to back issues, plus family commitments have meant it's not been easy to get out.  I'm hoping to get out tomorrow morning though.

FastEddie

Running was the one training session as a soldier I hated the most. Give me tabbing and even swimming. 
This was due to a spinal injury. 
25 years later, many screws and a new disc I have rediscovered the peace of solitude of running.

Only in the forest or trails, and only with the dog and mainly with Radiohead, Green Day, Iron Maiden in my ears.

I've not timed myself since my head injury but before that I managed 1 1/2 miles in 10mins 30. That is the distance we used in the Army as a benchmark. My fastest was in 1990 with 8 mins 15. 

A new pair of Hoka shoes are inbound as I have, astoundingly, worn out a pair of trail runners! 

There is a pleasure in the pain and a real sense of 'f#ck you world, f#ck you injury' when I finish. 

Do I like running? No. I LOVE the huge release of anger when I finish. 
In short, whilst I am still re-learning the guitar, post head-injury, I get my therapy from running and tabbing. 

Benm39

14 miles today in some horribly muddy trails,  skating like a duck but at least it stopped raining after about 4 miles. 

Good luck tomorrow @Bidley !

djspecialist

Has anyone here done the Kielder marathon? I'm pondering an entry for this October.

Benm39

djspecialist said:

Has anyone here done the Kielder marathon? I'm pondering an entry for this October.

No,  but it looks tempting when I've seen YouTube footage on it. Pity it's the opposite end of the country. 

Bidley

Well, I woke up yesterday morning feeling pretty rubbish. No energy, hardly any sleep, didn't even feel like doing 5km let alone a marathon. I ate my porridge and got geared up wth the hope I'd get my medal and go back to the hotel room and eat my bodyweight in fried chicken to console myself.

Arrived at the start area busting for a piss. It was absolutely freezing. Stood in the queue for the bogs for nearly 30 minutes (with it barely moving) only to be told that bag drop was closing in 5 minutes. So I rush over, reluctantly take my top off, drop my bag then go to the starting pen as my wave had been called out. Thankfully the bogs there were clear so I have the longest piss ever.

After standing on the field for about 20 minutes, violently shivering, we can finally go to the starting corral and get started. Of course my wave was about 30 minutes slower than my expected time so for the first 2km I'm doing 12-13 minute miles and I started getting really twitchy.

So I finally got free and started to find a bit of a rythmn. The support was class so I actually started enjoying myself (getting my name on my shirt is probably the best running tip ever!). I'd made up all the time I'd lost in the painful first mile or so and was feeling pretty decent.

We got past the 20 mile mark and I was still feeling ok. Still decent support (although the amount of out-and-backs and little loops were starting to grate) so not a massive chore. I do runners' maths and realise sub-4 is still on the cards, so it's time to dig in.

We get to around, I don't know, the 23 mile mark and everyone around me is starting to flag, We start going into this industrial estate with no support or noise, just the sound of feet hitting the ground and people grunting and wheezing. Oh, and it's an out and back too so you know when you get to the end you're going to have to get back again. By far the biggest mental test of my life. At this point I had to disassociate completely just to get through it.

Finally get through that, and it's the last mile down Hove Lawns, where there's an amazing amount of people and noise, but by this point I had nothing left mentally so I was just holding on for dear life. The only thing I can remember is a guy in the crowd screaming at me "Well done Carl! I'm so proud of you!" and a massive lump in my throat as a result!

Get across the line and stop the watch... 03:58:35. Fuck. My. Arse. Raw. The old girl putting the gong around my neck was treated to a grown man blubbering at her. I didn't think I could do sub-4 throughout my training, and that morning I didn't even think I could run 5km.

So yeah, 10/10 would torture myself physically and emotionally again!

How did you get on @26.2 ?

Bod

Well done @Bidley, that's amazing work.  I cannot ever imagine running a marathon - 5k is enough for me right now, with 10k a big ambition.  Massive respect!

HerbieTheRadDorklift

Are the cheapo shoes from Decathlon any good short term? I don't care about durability as I'm just wanting to try running, I don't wanna spend £100 if I stop after 3 months.

Are these: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kiprun-kd500-men-s-dynamic-running-shoes-black-pink-limited-edition/_/R-p-301507?mc=8666151&c=BLACK

going to be heaps better than these for testing it out? : https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kalenji-run-100-men-s-running-shoes-grey/_/R-p-9713?mc=8351755&c=GREY

Bidley

Bod said:

Well done @Bidley, that's amazing work.  I cannot ever imagine running a marathon - 5k is enough for me right now, with 10k a big ambition.  Massive respect!

I was saying the exact same thing a couple of running threads ago thanks mate!

HerbieTheRadDorklift said:

Are the cheapo shoes from Decathlon any good short term? I don't care about durability as I'm just wanting to try running, I don't wanna spend £100 if I stop after 3 months.

Are these: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kiprun-kd500-men-s-dynamic-running-shoes-black-pink-limited-edition/_/R-p-301507?mc=8666151&c=BLACK

going to be heaps better than these for testing it out? : https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kalenji-run-100-men-s-running-shoes-grey/_/R-p-9713?mc=8351755&c=GREY

I've no idea, Decathlon stuff is usually decent. I would go for these for just a tenner more, they're a renowned great shoe. A bad pair of shoes can put you off running, I wouldn't bother with anything for £15 personally.

26.2

Bidley said:

Well, I woke up yesterday morning feeling pretty rubbish. No energy, hardly any sleep, didn't even feel like doing 5km let alone a marathon. I ate my porridge and got geared up wth the hope I'd get my medal and go back to the hotel room and eat my bodyweight in fried chicken to console myself.

Arrived at the start area busting for a piss. It was absolutely freezing. Stood in the queue for the bogs for nearly 30 minutes (with it barely moving) only to be told that bag drop was closing in 5 minutes. So I rush over, reluctantly take my top off, drop my bag then go to the starting pen as my wave had been called out. Thankfully the bogs there were clear so I have the longest piss ever.

After standing on the field for about 20 minutes, violently shivering, we can finally go to the starting corral and get started. Of course my wave was about 30 minutes slower than my expected time so for the first 2km I'm doing 12-13 minute miles and I started getting really twitchy.

So I finally got free and started to find a bit of a rythmn. The support was class so I actually started enjoying myself (getting my name on my shirt is probably the best running tip ever!). I'd made up all the time I'd lost in the painful first mile or so and was feeling pretty decent.

We got past the 20 mile mark and I was still feeling ok. Still decent support (although the amount of out-and-backs and little loops were starting to grate) so not a massive chore. I do runners' maths and realise sub-4 is still on the cards, so it's time to dig in.

We get to around, I don't know, the 23 mile mark and everyone around me is starting to flag, We start going into this industrial estate with no support or noise, just the sound of feet hitting the ground and people grunting and wheezing. Oh, and it's an out and back too so you know when you get to the end you're going to have to get back again. By far the biggest mental test of my life. At this point I had to disassociate completely just to get through it.

Finally get through that, and it's the last mile down Hove Lawns, where there's an amazing amount of people and noise, but by this point I had nothing left mentally so I was just holding on for dear life. The only thing I can remember is a guy in the crowd screaming at me "Well done Carl! I'm so proud of you!" and a massive lump in my throat as a result!

Get across the line and stop the watch... 03:58:35. Fuck. My. Arse. Raw. The old girl putting the gong around my neck was treated to a grown man blubbering at her. I didn't think I could do sub-4 throughout my training, and that morning I didn't even think I could run 5km.

So yeah, 10/10 would torture myself physically and emotionally again!

How did you get on @26.2 ?

Fantastic work mate - so pleased for you!!! I knew you’d be under 4 based on your training times - excellent stuff. 

I didn’t have a great run really - I tweaked my right hamstring in my last training run I think. I only really began to feel it late on Friday and it was nagging away on Saturday as well. I actually got off to a decent start and was on track until about 15 miles but it started getting tighter and I just had to slow right down to be able to get round. I actually managed to get in a decent finishing couple of miles, but I’d lost a load of time already. So 4’35” was my final time. I was hoping for 4.15-4.20 but y’know I’m happy enough. 

Not disappointed though - just pleased to have got round! It was a great day - much better organisation than before and a better course. Had a few beers afterwards and just got home this afternoon- a brilliant weekend. 

I’d forgotten how hilly Brighton really is - also pretty windy yesterday as well. 

Anyway, once again well done @Bidley - terrific achievement! 

Bidley

Thanks @26.2 it still hasn't sunk in. Sorry to hear about the hammy, that's a shame but it's all about that medal eh! I did keep an eye out for you too.

The course was great, hills and all (and to a fenboy like me that was new territory!). I even got some wicked sunburn after having my knackers frozen off which pretty much sums up my entire experience.

What did you make of the soul-destroying industrial estate? They've got to sort that out for next year surely.

26.2

Bidley said:

Thanks @26.2 it still hasn't sunk in. Sorry to hear about the hammy, that's a shame but it's all about that medal eh! I did keep an eye out for you too.

The course was great, hills and all (and to a fenboy like me that was new territory!). I even got some wicked sunburn after having my knackers frozen off which pretty much sums up my entire experience.

What did you make of the soul-destroying industrial estate? They've got to sort that out for next year surely.

Yeah the freezing start and then sunburn is a bit of a feature of Brighton. This year was particularly grim at the start though. 

The industrial estate - they HAVE sorted it out! That bit used to go on for ever, in fact pretty much up to the power station. But it came about 2 or 3 miles earlier because there was no loop up to Withdean at the start. The finish was way further east, past the pier and down to the marina. It was awful! One year (2019 iirc) there was a howling head-on gale down to the finish. I actually did ok that year, 4’12”, but I thought I was going to die on the finish straight. 

And yeah - it’s all about that medal! I always do my absolute best. I think everyone does - there’s no hiding place from mile 23 that’s for sure.

Iamnobody

Bidley said:

Well, I woke up yesterday and ran a fucking sub 4 marathon!

  

Great stuff - well done indeed.

I knew you’d do it. The plan just works. 

Congrats and of course to everyone else who ran. Sorry you picked up an injury @26.2 at least it don’t result in a DNF.

russpm

Bidley said:

Well, I woke up yesterday morning feeling pretty rubbish. No energy, hardly any sleep, didn't even feel like doing 5km let alone a marathon. I ate my porridge and got geared up wth the hope I'd get my medal and go back to the hotel room and eat my bodyweight in fried chicken to console myself.

Arrived at the start area busting for a piss. It was absolutely freezing. Stood in the queue for the bogs for nearly 30 minutes (with it barely moving) only to be told that bag drop was closing in 5 minutes. So I rush over, reluctantly take my top off, drop my bag then go to the starting pen as my wave had been called out. Thankfully the bogs there were clear so I have the longest piss ever.

After standing on the field for about 20 minutes, violently shivering, we can finally go to the starting corral and get started. Of course my wave was about 30 minutes slower than my expected time so for the first 2km I'm doing 12-13 minute miles and I started getting really twitchy.

So I finally got free and started to find a bit of a rythmn. The support was class so I actually started enjoying myself (getting my name on my shirt is probably the best running tip ever!). I'd made up all the time I'd lost in the painful first mile or so and was feeling pretty decent.

We got past the 20 mile mark and I was still feeling ok. Still decent support (although the amount of out-and-backs and little loops were starting to grate) so not a massive chore. I do runners' maths and realise sub-4 is still on the cards, so it's time to dig in.

We get to around, I don't know, the 23 mile mark and everyone around me is starting to flag, We start going into this industrial estate with no support or noise, just the sound of feet hitting the ground and people grunting and wheezing. Oh, and it's an out and back too so you know when you get to the end you're going to have to get back again. By far the biggest mental test of my life. At this point I had to disassociate completely just to get through it.

Finally get through that, and it's the last mile down Hove Lawns, where there's an amazing amount of people and noise, but by this point I had nothing left mentally so I was just holding on for dear life. The only thing I can remember is a guy in the crowd screaming at me "Well done Carl! I'm so proud of you!" and a massive lump in my throat as a result!

Get across the line and stop the watch... 03:58:35. Fuck. My. Arse. Raw. The old girl putting the gong around my neck was treated to a grown man blubbering at her. I didn't think I could do sub-4 throughout my training, and that morning I didn't even think I could run 5km.

So yeah, 10/10 would torture myself physically and emotionally again!

How did you get on @26.2 ?

Well done @Bidley , fantastic effort. Enjoy the afterglow mate. Months of graft ending with a perfectly executed race. 

russpm

Well done @26.2 , amazing that you held it together with a hammy injury. Superb effort mate.