What's with all the uber-lefty knobbery at the moment?

Drew_TNBD

iseverynamegone said:

Pisses me off that the Left is always portrayed as soft as shit. We need a bit more Stalinism I reckon.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00740/Ed_Miliband_and_his_740921a.jpg

Skipped

Do you think the 900 page report by the USA Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission might have noticed if Gordon Brown was to blame......

Have a guess how many times his name is mentioned..........
Here is a clue.
It is a nice round figure.

Even the Tories have stopped using their ridicuous 2010 arguments......
Preperation for the Crisis? Thats's different.
That is why "What would George the Towel Folder have done?" is so interesting................

Drew_TNBD

Skipped said:

Do you think the 900 page report by the USA Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission might have noticed if Gordon Brown was to blame......

Have a guess how many times his name is mentioned..........
Here is a clue.
It is a nice round figure.

Even the Tories have stopped using their ridicuous 2010 arguments......
Preperation for the Crisis? Thats's different.
That is why "What would George the Towel Folder have done?" is so interesting................

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/aug/06/financial-crisis-25-people-heart-meltdown

Fretwired

Skipped said:

Fretwired said:

Sorry to disappoint but check out an interview with Osborne and Alexander in which they were shocked at the true levels of debt.

If you are moving on to a discussion about "secret debt"......WTF.....then that is indeed a deeply disappointing argument from you..

WTF is secret debt. THis is simple. The Treasury's books are only seen by government ministers which puts the opposition at a disadvantage (the same will be true for Labour this time round). The levels of debt were higher than thought.

Drew_TNBD

Also this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13032013

Fretwired

Drew_fx said:

Skipped said:

Do you think the 900 page report by the USA Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission might have noticed if Gordon Brown was to blame......

Have a guess how many times his name is mentioned..........
Here is a clue.
It is a nice round figure.

Even the Tories have stopped using their ridicuous 2010 arguments......
Preperation for the Crisis? Thats's different.
That is why "What would George the Towel Folder have done?" is so interesting................

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/aug/06/financial-crisis-25-people-heart-meltdown

Excellent find ...

Of course Brown wouldn't be in a US report. Had the UK not been so heavily mortgaged up to the hilt we could have weathered the storm. Brown was too busy with his mates in the City. He ended boom and bust did he? And I'd forgotten that he was resposnsible for all the Nom Dom tax avoidance ...

Fretwired

Drew_fx said:

Also this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13032013

Another excellent find .. :-)

I remember why I loathe Brown ...

chillidoggy

capo4th said:

Ed Balls and Ed Milliband scare the shit out of me.

Me too. Particularly Ed Balls.

capo4th

Drew_fx said:

Also this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13032013

Oh well what's a global financial meltdown between friends...

Skipped

Fretwired said:

WTF is secret debt. THis is simple. The Treasury's books are only seen by government ministers which puts the opposition at a disadvantage (the same will be true for Labour this time round). The levels of debt were higher than thought.

So are you arguing that the Tories were deliriously happy with the huge Labour spending * on the NHS and Schools. That the problem was having a sight of the books.
Are you suggesting that George Osborne doubling the debt is is not our greatest worry? Has he tripled the debt then?

* 100% justified spending unless you were ready for a return to hospital corridors crowded with patients on trolleys 1997 style......

Skipped

Drew_fx said:

Also this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13032013

I look forward to Cameron apologising for calling for less regulation at that time.

Skipped

Fretwired said:

Of course Brown wouldn't be in a US report.

That is correct. Brown is not mentioned in a 900 page report which details many different factors around the world.
It must puzzle you that all of the countries impacted by the World Financial Crisis are not blaming Gordon Brown......

Skipped

We eventually reached a point when even the Tories noticed that Gordon Brown was not responsible for the Sub-prime crisis in California.
And so....... they turned to pointing out that it must be Labour's fault because Labour were in office.
And the really great thing about slogans is that they can be recycled.

So let's see.....
The Debt has doubled.....

"Who is driving the car right now?"

Fretwired

Skipped said:

Fretwired said:

WTF is secret debt. THis is simple. The Treasury's books are only seen by government ministers which puts the opposition at a disadvantage (the same will be true for Labour this time round). The levels of debt were higher than thought.

So are you arguing that the Tories were deliriously happy with the huge Labour spending * on the NHS and Schools. That the problem was having a sight of the books.
Are you suggesting that George Osborne doubling the debt is is not our greatest worry? Has he tripled the debt then?

* 100% justified spending unless you were ready for a return to hospital corridors crowded with patients on trolleys 1997 style......

Go ask the hospitals signed up to Brown's PFI schemes. It's bankrupting them. Labour spent money but poorly. They spent £16 billion on a failed NHS computer system - that was funded out of the health budget. Margaret Hodge (tax dodging Tesco heiress and Labour MP) actually stated it was the worst fiasco she'd ever seen. Add all the MoD failures - £6.5 billion overspend, £3.5 billion for the war in Iraq, £37 billion for the war in Afghanistan, £7 billion for two useless aircraft carriers .. these are eye watering sums of money.

Labour gets in a mess and the Tories try and sort it out.

Sambostar

Tory....Labour...Tory...Labour..  nit...nerr.......nit.....nerrrr........nerrrr....nit.

Skipped

Fretwired said:

Labour gets in a mess and the Tories try and sort it out.

John Major and the Tories introduced PFI  in 1992.

I think you have the mess the wrong way round.
The Labour spending after a Tory government is for a reason.
In 1997 we had a GP crisis. Not tackled until Labour came to office.
Guess what.....the Tories are in govt again. We have another GP crisis.

You must have a theory why Cameron is refusing to debate his record?

Teetonetal

Nearly every country in the world is in a mess to some extent and there are many different styles of politics involved. Left, Right who cares? Extremes of either direction are a pile of horse shite.

Drew_TNBD

Me too!

Skipped;555939" said:

Drew_fx said:

Also this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13032013










I look forward to Cameron apologising for calling for less regulation at that time.

Fretwired

Skipped said:

Fretwired said:

Labour gets in a mess and the Tories try and sort it out.

John Major and the Tories introduced PFI  in 1992.

I think you have the mess the wrong way round.
The Labour spending after a Tory government is for a reason.
In 1997 we had a GP crisis. Not tackled until Labour came to office.
Guess what.....the Tories are in govt again. We have another GP crisis.

You must have a theory why Cameron is refusing to debate his record?

Labour fixed the GP problem which is why you can't see a GP. Nice one ..

Basically Labour and the Tories are the same .. I've had enough but you just vote Labour for the same reason a Newcastle fan watches his football team. Not out of hope that something will change but for because he's always done it and while he does nothing will change.

Drew_TNBD

If people voted for changed, they'd have voted BNP into power. People don't want change. They want business as usual.