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  • SouthpawMarkSouthpawMark Frets: 616
    Jinx worked again. You’re welcome.

    well done England!! Someone better give Ian Smith the number for The Samaritans. 
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  • Simon_MSimon_M Frets: 535
    Absolute scenes!!! Couldn’t have been closer. Superb.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 7970
    I am crying


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 18653
    I had to go for a poop straight after that...
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  • jhumberjhumber Frets: 56
    What an unbelievable ending, easily one of the most thrilling sports moments I’ve ever seen. Superb game.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 7970
    Unbelievable, like a fairytale. 

    Pinch yourself. We just witnessed the greatest end to a Cricket World Cup ever that will probably never be repeated. Get the Blu Ray or DVD and tell your grandkids.

    we were there


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  • SchnozzSchnozz Frets: 1009
    The butterflies aren't going away
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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2800

    Unbelievable drama!  A cricket world cup, British Gp and 3 tip runs.  Not a bad day

    Harsh on NZ who scored the same as England in the 50 and also super over.  But I’m not complaining!
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 7970
    I am hoarse and teary, when Joss Butler stumped them I ran out the house barefoot screaming yeaaahh and met my neighbour who also ran out and we man hugged in tears!


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  • SouthpawMarkSouthpawMark Frets: 616
    What a great day of sport. The only fly in the ointment was bloody Djokovic winning Wimbledon. 
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 5802
    Now for the Ashes.

    Bring on the sandpaper boys!!! 
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 5940
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    Wow - Wish I knew some better words

    NZ total credit to the game, themselves and their country - But that was excellent

    Sat on the sofa at 10am - 2 trips to the loo - 2 to the kettle - Never moved - 10 hours of excellence

    Surely they have just won team of the year at SPOTY (for what it is worth) - Only the Rugby Team winning the WC could take it of them

    Well done to England 
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 13786
    Amazing result! I couldn't watch. Sport gets too much for me.
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  • DeadmanDeadman Frets: 2770
    I feel honoured to have witnessed that. Bloomin' brilliant stuff. 
    My trading feedback is here 
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 6635
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    Amazing result! I couldn't watch. Sport gets too much for me.
    I had it on the radio, tried the TV but it was too weird, I'm only used to cricket on the radio.

    Even so, I had to switch off halfway through the England innings, then came back a couple of overs before the end.

    Couldn't believe how it ended.  Total insanity.
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 2023
    The craziest game of sport I have ever spectated. 

    Truly incredible. 
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  • vasselmeyervasselmeyer Frets: 2655
    I reckon that was the greatest one day match ever.
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    Deadman said:
    I feel honoured to have witnessed that. Bloomin' brilliant stuff. 
    agree
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  • That was my first ever hour of watching cricket ( the last hour of the match ) 

    Bloody magic, absolutely fantastic spectacle.

    Is it always like this? 
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 1167
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 7970
    Fuengi said:
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
    Taxi for @Fuengi ;

    get him out of here...


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    That was my first ever hour of watching cricket ( the last hour of the match ) 

    Bloody magic, absolutely fantastic spectacle.

    Is it always like this? 
    No - we often loose

    I suppose that ending is equivalent to a penalty shoot out - I can recall it once on a county match - Not in an international

    I watched it all - And i suppose you need to buy into the build up that makes the last one hour so good - It could have gone either way

    Total credit to both teams - What with the extra 4 over throws when it hit Stokes's bat - No dissent etc

    Won't mean anything to them now, but NZ can walk away with total credit 

    If we had beaten Aus or India in this way then more 'gloating' from us I dare say - But you can't gloat after that performance from NZ - That is what made it so good in many ways

    Both teams will share a few beers now and build some good friendship of the match/moment for many years

    Hope the good lady is doing okay !!!!
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 1167
    Fuengi said:
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
    Taxi for @Fuengi ;

    get him out of here...

    Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.  
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 3404
    Delighted that England won, what a great match, and chuffed that the England captain is an Irishman from Rush in Co. Dublin.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • Fuengi said:
    Fuengi said:
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
    Taxi for @Fuengi ;

    get him out of here...

    Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.  
    Yer cab's outside Son............... ;)
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 1167
    Fuengi said:
    Fuengi said:
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
    Taxi for @Fuengi ;

    get him out of here...

    Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.  
    Yer cab's outside Son............... ;)

    I'll get my coat. 
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  • SouthpawMarkSouthpawMark Frets: 616
    Kane Williamson might be one of the nicest chaps In sport. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost. 
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 7970
    Just woke up after a restless nights sleep. I can't quite believe what we witnessed last night.


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    Fuengi said:
    Fuengi said:
    Fuengi said:
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
    Taxi for @Fuengi ;

    get him out of here...

    Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.  
    Yer cab's outside Son............... ;)

    I'll get my coat. 
    Well, just had a read of the Laws on the MCC website for the first time in my life and @Fuengi is correct. The Law states:

    19.8 Overthrow or wilful act of fielder

    If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be

              any runs for penalties awarded to either side

    and     the allowance for the boundary

    and     the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had

              already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.

    Law 18.12.2 (Batsman returning to wicket he/she has left) shall apply as from the instant of the throw or act.


    In the footage online it's clear that Stokes & Rashid had not crossed at the point that the NZ fielder threw the ball so it should have been 5 runs not 6.


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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 1167
    Fuengi said:
    Fuengi said:
    Fuengi said:
    Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times. 

    Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.  

    Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.
    Taxi for @Fuengi ;

    get him out of here...

    Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.  
    Yer cab's outside Son............... ;)

    I'll get my coat. 
    Well, just had a read of the Laws on the MCC website for the first time in my life and @Fuengi is correct. The Law states:

    19.8 Overthrow or wilful act of fielder

    If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be

              any runs for penalties awarded to either side

    and     the allowance for the boundary

    and     the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had

              already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.

    Law 18.12.2 (Batsman returning to wicket he/she has left) shall apply as from the instant of the throw or act.


    In the footage online it's clear that Stokes & Rashid had not crossed at the point that the NZ fielder threw the ball so it should have been 5 runs not 6.


    I've had a copy of MCC Masterclass for 30 years and would read the laws after matches if something occurred I wasn't sure about. I got to know them pretty well. 

    The law in my version is 19.5 so they have been updated in that time but it still applies the same. 

    I think the umpires discussed it at the time but for whatever reason did not check if they had crossed. 
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