Rough gigs

Moe_Zambeek

thomasross20;806444" said:

F*** knows... he'll be there 10am - 3pm but include set-up time, chat, lunch etc.... I'll say 3 hours recording time. Only meant to be doing two songs initially but what if he lays something down and it's just wrong.... you can't just lay bass down - surely bass & drums need to be done at the same time (unless he's going by a click). The whole point of this was to get a professional sounding demo we can hand over to pubs but this isn't professional. I can bring a bass if need be. Can you play bass?? We're recording ACDC's "Shook Me" and Janice Joplin's "Piece of My Heart"

My prediction is you'll just be getting the drums right around 2 and starting to record proper takes. If it was me I'd be cancelling until *all* of the band can be there for *all* weekend.

I've wasted so much time and money doing half-assed stuff like that over the years.

PolarityMan

Moe_Zambeek said:

what happens if his bit isn't done in time?

same thing that always happens, guitarist records the bassists parts...duh...its like a time honoured studio tradition.

Roland

Which is probably the first step towards replacing your bass player, and his girlfriend. You'll have plenty of time to discuss with the rest of the band over the weekend

Moe_Zambeek said:My prediction is you'll just be getting the drums right around 2 and starting to record proper takes. If it was me I'd be cancelling until *all* of the band can be there for *all* weekend. 

If you can cancel without losing any money then I would do just that.

Danny1969

It will probably be fine. In all the recording sessions I've done for covers bands in this scenario it's  basically set up in a hour or 2 hour tops, track the band looking for good takes of drums, bass and guitar (only really using scratch vocals as a guide so people know where they are in the song) and then do vocals, backing vocals, guitar solos and any additional stuff after

If he  doesn't need to be there for vocals and solos then should be fine

UnclePsychosis

Music stands are all right but that bright pink one with giant pink folder on it looks shit if I'm being honest. 

One of these would look much better

John_P

Danny1969 said:

It will probably be fine. In all the recording sessions I've done for covers bands in this scenario it's  basically set up in a hour or 2 hour tops, track the band looking for good takes of drums, bass and guitar (only really using scratch vocals as a guide so people know where they are in the song) and then do vocals, backing vocals, guitar solos and any additional stuff after

If he  doesn't need to be there for vocals and solos then should be fine

Danny,  I suspect you're talking about a more experienced and organised cover band than the one Thomas is describing - I have no doubts he can walk straight in and lay down his parts in no time but the rest of the band sound a bit of a shambles - could lead to a thread about rough recording sessions ;-)  

thomasross20

 

I wrote  a huge reply earlier but deleted it. 

In short, the drummer and I have had pretty much enough. 

This Christmas it may very well be our last gig with the band.

Just hope this thing with the new singer works out. If not, I'll miss regular practices but I'm sure I can move on to something else (maybe move on with my life, as such)

vasselmeyer

With a committed drummer and guitarist and an experienced vocalist you should be able to find a bass player easily. You'll be well shot of that shower.

thomasross20

Fingers crossed regarding the singer - we've got two hours booked on Thursday - self-taught singer (but sounds great) and taught guitarist - could get away with a 4-piece! I was annoyed today as main singer was backing up the bassist (they work together) when a few months ago she never sent one email when I said I was thinking about quitting. 

We're just going to play the quiet game and tell them we're quitting one practice before the Crimbo gig. Shame as there will be collateral damage and we're paying for this bloody demo!

Moe_Zambeek

What sort of stuff are you planning g with the new band?

thomasross20

TBH I'm going to use a lot of our current set-list... also going to see what the new singer likes to do. She does a good version of "I Just Want To Make Love To You" off the Cola adverts! If we go more pro and do weddings would even learn chart tunes lol... I'm hoping we can do a few more rockier ones. Also a few acoustic tunes I have on hand (La Bamba, More Than Words, etc).... AND maybe write some of our own. Lots of ideas so need to just take it easy and see what develops.

Danny1969

Thomas

Stop and think about quitting, yeah you might be pissed about some stuff but at present you are out and gigging, learning, developing your stage craft, in the shop window etc. Your what 30 now  ? and only got about 100 gigs or so under your belt ? A guy with your ability should have done a 1000 by now. 

Don't walk away until your new band is up and gig'ing or that will be another year wasted

EricTheWeary

Moe_Zambeek said:

What sort of stuff are you planning g with the new band?

I so wanted the answer to that to be djent.  B-)

EricTheWeary

Etta James. Etta James. ETTA JAMES. Cola adverts, harrumph...

thomasross20

Djent!

Danny, I know what you're saying... Guess I'll see how it goes but can't say I'm pleased about a whole bunch of things. See how it goes the next few weeks

thomasross20

Had the sesh with the new singer last night - she's good and can also play good guitar. Just need to get a bassist who can do some vox and that's a 4-piece!
Drummer is eager to quit current band and I won't have time for two so see how it goes...

meltedbuzzbox

thomasross20 said:

!! Serious - do the song sheets detract or not? I'm not a fan but have said that before... 

Lol...

it removes the interaction with the audience which is usually what the singer is all about. 

meltedbuzzbox

Danny1969 said:

Thomas

Stop and think about quitting, yeah you might be pissed about some stuff but at present you are out and gigging, learning, developing your stage craft, in the shop window etc. Your what 30 now  ? and only got about 100 gigs or so under your belt ? A guy with your ability should have done a 1000 by now. 

Don't walk away until your new band is up and gig'ing or that will be another year wasted

I would argue that doing something your heart isnt in and feels like a chore isn't worth pursuing. 

thomasross20

I'm not 100% on quitting and there would be collateral damage. 

Been forced into this (e.g. bassist's girlfriend issue, for one) yet if I mention it, I'll be the bad guy. Too much drama. 

TBH I'm going through a general lull just now - this has been consuming my life and I can't be @rsed!

mudslide73

You're too good for them. Get your new band started and f*** them off.. that bass player is tekkin the pee big time. Life's too short to mess about.