Epi LP headstock repair.

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  • RichardjRichardj Frets: 1538
    Hey @DeeTee, any news on this?
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Not really. I ended up homeless for a while. Technically I still am, although I should be moving in somewhere towards the start of June. Hopefully I can get back to it then.
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  • RichardjRichardj Frets: 1538
    Man that sucks, sorry if you are having hassles.  Let us know how you are doing.
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Yeah, it's been pretty rough. I start a new job on Tuesday though and I seem to have sorted somewhere to live. It was getting pretty tight for a while!
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Right! I'm coming back to this after not really having a home to do anything in for quite a while. I appear to have made an error and routed the channels too large for the splines that @richardj kindly provided. That being the case, does anyone know where I can get a couple of pieces of mahogany cut to size in London?
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  • RichardjRichardj Frets: 1538
    I'll happily cut some more larger ones if you need.
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Are you sure man? This would be the third time you've tried to help me out!
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  • RichardjRichardj Frets: 1538
    edited November 2014
    Just let me know what size you need........

    And PM me your addy ;)
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    edited May 2020
    Holy necro thread, Batman! I stopped this repair because things got a little difficult for a while there, and my situation was a bit precarious. I moved a lot, but one thing that always made it through the moves was this busted guitar. I couldn't find the wood that @Richardj kindly provided (three times!) though, and always intended to get round to it. Then what did I find while looking for my Dremel? The wood! Cut to width! It was time to get cracking.

    So I've filed the splines to size, and made sure it's a pretty snug fit.

    https://imgur.com/KfzyWbk

    https://i.imgur.com/KfzyWbk.jpg

    https://imgur.com/YN7y5ZG

    [https://i.imgur.com/YN7y5ZG.jpg

    I ordered some Titebond, and glued them in. I didn't have a thick enough piece of wood to clamp on, so used stiff cardboard to stop any marking and distribute the weight. 

    https://imgur.com/a/Gmrrz30

    https://i.imgur.com/bCdUNOj.jpg

    I left it on for a day, and this is how they look now: 

    https://imgur.com/a/9RGBqxc

    https://i.imgur.com/rsP8wT6.jpg


    As you can see, there's a small gap by one of the splines where my routing wasn't the finest. If I was doing it now, I'd have the ability to make a jig, but back then, not so much. I saved the sawdust from shaping the splines, so I'll mix that with some Titebond and try to fill it. Would the same thing work for the marks on the neck where I slipped?

    The next step will be to shape the splines to the neck. I have a nut for it, but in all the moves, I seem to have lost the studs and posts for the bridge and tailpiece. Irksome, because I still have the bridge and tailpiece! Oh well, I've ordered a replacement set and they'll be with me in three to six weeks. Gives me some time to tidy it up!

    I've no idea if this will work, but it's nice to look back on something I started years ago while I was in a bad place, and finish it up now that I'm in a really good place. I thought some of you might like to see it. And thank you again @Richardj for your kindness.
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  • normula1normula1 Frets: 640
    That's not too shabby at all for freehand on multi curved surfaces.
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  • SargeSarge Frets: 2403
    Wow, I remember this from way back, good to see the guitar followed you through your trevails.

    I'd be tempted to glue another piece of the spline wood into the gap rather than the sawdust and glue, if you have any that is. 

    It'll be nice to see this finally brought back to life :) 
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Sarge said:
    Wow, I remember this from way back, good to see the guitar followed you through your trevails.

    I'd be tempted to glue another piece of the spline wood into the gap rather than the sawdust and glue, if you have any that is. 

    It'll be nice to see this finally brought back to life :) 
    That might not be a bad idea. I'll see how it looks when I've shaped the splines. This picture makes the gap look a little bigger than it does in person, if that makes sense?

    It's a shame it'll be a few weeks before I can string it up and see if it worked!
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    edited May 2020
    I've done the first sanding, going over it with the dremel and trying to follow the contours. I didn't want to go too close and damage the finish any more than I already have. Next step will be hand sanding, I think.

    https://i.imgur.com/F1eXe04.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/q4UmalK.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/FBCe2sh.jpg
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Oh, I forgot to say @Sarge - I looked into your idea of a thin slice of wood in that gap. Unfortunately, the way the glue dried prevents that. I've saved the sawdust, so I'll have to give that a go.
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    After hand sanding: 

    https://i.imgur.com/lxWK2KJ.jpg

    Crap photo, but I've actually managed to get it to follow the curves reasonably well. It's still standing slightly proud, but only ever so slightly.

    My original plan had been to leave the repair visible as a sort of badge of honour, showing what it's been through. However, it looks like to get it feeling right, I'll have to sand it all back to the wood and refinish that portion. As it's an Epiphone, that'll mean finding a way to apply polyester that doesn't involve buying a full spray setup. Any tips on that greatly appreciated.
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  • DeeTeeDeeTee Frets: 764
    Exciting times. I finally received the bridge in the mail from Musiclily. I wasn't going to spend much on the bridge in case the repair didn't hold, so waited ages for delivery from China.

    So I fitted the bridge and strung it up with 10s yesterday, with the intention of leaving it on overnight. Came down this morning and there it is - solid and still in tune. After all this time, it seems to have worked! I'm stoked.

    There was some wicked fret buzz, which is understandable. It's not had any string tension on it for nearly seven years! I've given the truss rod about half a turn, but I'll give it a week or so to settle before I do anything more.

    Now I need to decide what to do about the finish. I need to cover the bare wood on the back of the neck. I'm not sure whether to try and fill the poly in that area, or strip the whole guitar and refinish it. I'd be grateful for any advice.
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  • PeteCPeteC Frets: 409
    Glad you got it sorted and playable again   Nice one. 
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