Interesting V****x Effects article on Reverb

4114Effects

Just found this article on today's email from Reverb, and interview with the effects company which shall not be named.

Thought a few of you may find it interesting. I think I prefer reading the comments below to the actual article itself...

https://reverb.com/news/vertex-effects-after-the-axis-wah-scandal-a-conversation-with-mason-marangella

ChrisCox1994

I don't know why anyone would buy from that company, with the state of pedals and sheer range on offer right now, why choose modded copys and outright lies? 

Some people are buying it clearly, but WHO?

Teetonetal

Here we go again....

Oh and just to make the circle complete, thread on TGP saying that Devi Ever has bought the name back from Dwarf Craft.

Rejoice one and all.

4114Effects

That's why I refrained from commenting. Merely linking to an article that I found interesting reading. Maybe this thread was a bad idea - perhaps we should close it and just leave the link to the article active?

bingefeller

heh, I was discussing this in PM the other day. 

How he is still in business I don't know.  Remember Ken from Freekish Blues?  He lost everything and was nowhere near as bad as Mason. 

The unedited article was pretty cringeworthy and the interviewer dropped this classic line:

Did I hear that the contract manufacturer you’re using now also does military work in Silicon Valley?

It's as if he was suggesting that good old Mason uses the same manufacturer and the military so you can trust him.  God bless America. 

bbill335

Teetonetal said:

Here we go again....

Oh and just to make the circle complete, thread on TGP saying that Devi Ever has bought the name back from Dwarf Craft.

Rejoice one and all.

The only ones touching anything with her name not made by Dwarcraft are the sycophants and zealots that licked her e-wounds on Facebook after she was permabanned from ILF for vandalising the site (one that she helped build) with shitposts and slander against Dwarfcraft.

So much pedal drama in the world, it's hard to keep up...

joeyowen

we aren't TGP, this can remain civil

I read the article, i'm not happy for vertex

but, I am happy for his customers who are buying what they want from him, as gear makes the guitar world go around.
What may be important (and obvious) to some, isn't to others I guess

Also, where the feck did he get all that money from for the redemptions? 

UnclePsychosis

Well Reverb have just lost this customer. Running a puff piece on a self-confessed liar and conman is not what I expect from a "community of musicians" (Reverb's words, not mine). The article doesn't even come close to the full truth of the Vertex scams.

Maybe @iain.reverb can attempt to justify this horror show.

joeyowen

Chicago Music Exchange are good friends/endorsers of Vertex

they own Reverb.

Coincidence I'm sure

bingefeller

joeyowen said:

we aren't TGP, this can remain civil

I read the article, i'm not happy for vertex

but, I am happy for his customers who are buying what they want from him, as gear makes the guitar world go around.
What may be important (and obvious) to some, isn't to others I guess

Also, where the feck did he get all that money from for the redemptions? 

Fair dues to Mason for giving everyone their money back.  He said in the interview that he sold off his gear to repay the people for the wahs, so fair play to him for that. 

joeyowen

@bingefeller ;

yes and no

yes fair play, but he only did it to avoid lawsuits imo.  It was the easier option

I do think it will help him sleep better at night now though

bingefeller

joeyowen said:

@bingefeller ;

yes and no

yes fair play, but he only did it to avoid lawsuits imo.  It was the easier option

I do think it will help him sleep better at night now though

Yeah he was backed into a corner on that one for sure so he was.

 

professorben

Popcorn anyone? 

professorben

I heard someone read a piece that Mason wrote saying the UK would be better off in Europe. 

professorben

I once heard some one say they heard  that Mason supports Trump

joeyowen

I reckon Andertons will stock them soon

A Chappers recommendation 

impmann

Did anyone on here own one of these Wahs and sent it back?

simonk

impmann said:

Did anyone on here own one of these Wahs and sent it back?

Yup, I've got an Axis wah.

impmann

simonk said:

impmann said:

Did anyone on here own one of these Wahs and sent it back?

Yup, I've got an Axis wah.

Are you going to/have you sent it back?

simonk

impmann said:

simonk said:

impmann said:

Did anyone on here own one of these Wahs and sent it back?

Yup, I've got an Axis wah.

Are you going to/have you sent it back?

No, I kept it and recently got a Dynamic Distortion for free by way of rebate.

iain.reverb

UnclePsychosis said:

Well Reverb have just lost this customer. Running a puff piece on a self-confessed liar and conman is not what I expect from a "community of musicians" (Reverb's words, not mine). The article doesn't even come close to the full truth of the Vertex scams.

Maybe @iain.reverb can attempt to justify this horror show.

First of all I'm really sorry to hear that I have lost you as a customer over this. If there's anything I can do to make it right with you please send me a PM or drop me an email and I'll do whatever's in my power to keep you as a customer. 

 I personally think that Mason did not get an easy ride in the interview.  The article in question has since been revised from the original to give a little more background detail with regards to the fraud(s) perpetrated. I don't think that the article was puffery in any way and I think Mason was tasked to answer some pretty tough questions. I saw the interview like yourselves for the first time on Sunday and I knew that this was going to open an enormous can of worms. 
I found the interview really interesting and I'm still trying to figure out. Is Mason a guy who deserves a chance at redemption, or is he a total conman who will never learn ?
Would I ever personally buy a vertex product ? The answer has to be no.