Celebrity privilege

jonnyburgo

Irritates me it does, Brooklyn Beckham landing a sweet job as fashion photographer when thousands of others with better skills are passed over, Also celebs deciding that they want to be authors and BANG, heres a book deal, fuck those that have been trying to get a foot in the door for years.

Just having an impotent moan, boo hoo.

fields5069

The most annoying thing is that their "career" choices are often validated by the general public and so they have no reason to believe that they haven't been a success. I agree, it's shit. The best we can do is try to block out that world they inhabit.

proggy

Unfortunately that's life mate. And Brooklyn Beckham is only famous because he's got famous parents. Although how his bimbo mother ever got anywhere I'll never know.

Fuengi

A quick buck! I'm sure he has an interest, but the publishers are only thinking about the cash. 

Do you really think he will spend 50 years in photography or will it be a few months / years then on to something else... 

breakstuff

I agree,it's shit.As soon as the words Brooklyn and Beckham appear in my field of vision I immediately skip to the next story,as I do with any other no mark 'celebritys'.

I hate this celebrity culture with a passion but unfortunately it's what many aspire to nowadays.Call me old fashioned but I just happen to think there's more worthwhile things people could be looking to achieve.

stickyfiddle

Of course it's annoying and unfair, but fashion photography is entirely about marketing, not about content. The market value of a photo goes WAY higher if it has a known model *and* photographer, even if that togger is an untalented derp (not saying he is or isn't - I genuinely have no idea)

Jalapeno

proggy said:

 Although how his bimbo mother ever got anywhere I'll never know.

I think she's pretty savvy, she's the driving force behind (non-football) brand Beckham.

Emp_Fab

But 'celebrities' are interesting - to a lot of people.  Take a glance at the average newsagent's magazine shelf.  Celebrity sells, and the public are the ones buying - and craving more.

Recognition for doing something, yeah, but fame for fame's sake is as stupid as the morons queuing up to buy the magazines.

Gassage

Here's a paradox.
Jaguar Land Rover have a VIP Lease scheme.

If you are a minor celeb (e.g. James Caan) you can lease a top of the range RR Sport for c. £250 per month.

Now, why do they give this discount to those most able to afford it?

ICBM

Same reason as why rock stars get free or heavily-subsidised endorsement gear, while poor unknowns have to pay full whack and take out credit to pay for it, presumably...

Bridgehouse

Gassage said:

Here's a paradox.
Jaguar Land Rover have a VIP Lease scheme.

If you are a minor celeb (e.g. James Caan) you can lease a top of the range RR Sport for c. £250 per month.

Now, why do they give this discount to those most able to afford it?

It's not the money - let's face it they could easily afford full whack. It's about feeling special and recognised...

slacker

Gassage said:

Here's a paradox.
Jaguar Land Rover have a VIP Lease scheme.

If you are a minor celeb (e.g. James Caan) you can lease a top of the range RR Sport for c. £250 per month.

Now, why do they give this discount to those most able to afford it?

If it's an existential question then I have no idea. 

If it's a literal question then if someone is a minor celeb then funds whilst generous are limited, being presented with a hefty discount could seal the deal. IMHO its a good ploy by Jag-Rover plus the vehicle gets exposure ie free ads with all the pap pics. 

By the way I run a 14 yr old Golf if any motor vehicle manufacturer is reading. 

fields5069

Gassage said:

Here's a paradox.
Jaguar Land Rover have a VIP Lease scheme.

If you are a minor celeb (e.g. James Caan) you can lease a top of the range RR Sport for c. £250 per month.

Now, why do they give this discount to those most able to afford it?

Cheap advertising in the areas they want to target, I guess. Presumably they don't want the likes of me as they've exhausted the depressed Welsh towns and Lidl carparks demographic.

Nikko

From what ive seen, hes a fairly accomplished photographer (youd struggle to see much difference between his fashion shots and those from a more experienced photographer), and his Dad is also a very keen photographer.

Did the fact that he is Brooklyn Beckham have anything to do with him getting the job? Yes, probably, but he does seem to know what hes doing with a camera.

Gassage

I am all in support of any kid conceived under a bridge in a slum.

boogieman

stickyfiddle said:

Of course it's annoying and unfair, but fashion photography is entirely about marketing, not about content. The market value of a photo goes WAY higher if it has a known model *and* photographer, even if that togger is an untalented derp (not saying he is or isn't - I genuinely have no idea)

Exactly. And to be honest, the photographer is only one link in a large chain that produces a fashion shoot. My niece by marriage is starting to make a name for herself in fashion photography in the US. She IS a decent togger but when you see the amount of people working with her, you have to wonder how much of the work is actually hers. There'll be an artistic assistant, production assistant, lighting assistant, make up stylist and hair stylist at the shoot, plus someone will do post production on the shot (i.e. Photoshop it). With someone at the top of the game (BB will doubtless work at this level no matter what his talent) I suspect the list is significantly longer. So he might have the basic idea and then get to press the shutter button when everything's set up. Whoopee. 

ESBlonde

The fashion industry is all about fluff over content. How many people actually dress like an ice cream cone or a salvador dali painting? Yet very rich people pay stupid amounts of money to be clad in exclusive items, some of those outfits cost more than a small family car and will be worn no more than a handful of times before being all but worthless. How can there be anything serious (other than obscene amounts of money) in the industry. We have become a nation of fools that choose to advertise the maker of our clothes and pay for the privilage, how fucked up is that! Having a famous name in the industry will open doors to people who buy into that whole concept and as such grease the flow of cash to the big names.

I'm not a fan of 'fashion' in that sense just in case you couldn't tell.

Fretwired

In fairness this goes on right across society in one form or another. The 'old boys' network in the City and big law firms and even parliament. The sons of ex-Labour leaders being given safe seats - what have they done to deserve it?

mikeyrob73

Just another nonebrity, just look at the likes of i'm a Celebrity, Sugar Free Farm or any of the other pish that is on the TV these days, people famous just for being famous. Anyone from Geordie Shore or Get Essex Into Me or whatever it is called, all a bunch of talentless twats who are now famous just for being famous. We are in an age now where you dont actually have to be good at anything to be famous. 

Rant over. 

Teetonetal

If you are competent with contacts then you will go a long way.

Everyone starting from zero and being treated equally is never going to be a reality. It's not how humans work.

boogieman

ESBlonde said:

The fashion industry is all about fluff over content. How many people actually dress like an ice cream cone or a salvador dali painting? Yet very rich people pay stupid amounts of money to be clad in exclusive items, some of those outfits cost more than a small family car and will be worn no more than a handful of times before being all but worthless. How can there be anything serious (other than obscene amounts of money) in the industry. We have become a nation of fools that choose to advertise the maker of our clothes and pay for the privilage, how fucked up is that! Having a famous name in the industry will open doors to people who buy into that whole concept and as such grease the flow of cash to the big names.

I'm not a fan of 'fashion' in that sense just in case you couldn't tell.

The celebs that wear those clothes generally don't buy them, the designers lend them to them to get media coverage. The designers then make their money from sticking their brand name on Chinese mass produced tat sold through Primark and supermarkets