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It made me laugh hard fwiw
It does surprise me at times that for someone who worked in the industry for guitar mags for years Mick does have some huge knowledge gaps. Unless its a deliberate ploy so Dan then explains it for the audience.
I am not really close to the whole shoe gaze thing sort of passed me buy. If they covered a style I liked with that sort of school boy dirty book in the satchel mentality think I would of been pretty pissed off.
But it seemed at least Dan had a dig in before to get himself up to speed and Mick just rocked up and giggled a lot.
I hope they can pull it back as I have enjoyed some of the old ones I have gone back and watched when I had time to kill.
Also Pale Saints.
And Revolver and Catherine Wheel., for the soppy and rawk ends of the Shoegaze spectrum respectively.
Personally I find it astonishing that, in a show about pedals that talks about drive pedals so often, neither of the two hosts are capable of ably demonstrating anything more than AC/DC levels of gain.
Then, when you step outside of dirt pedals, they don't really know how to do much other than apply effects on top of that rather than using them to craft a decent sound for a specific genre. For example...that "expensive delay pedal" show they put on - coming from a heavy rock background, I didn't see/hear a single example from them which would be useful to me in any way.
There are two parts to this - research, and adaptability. They seem to have neither...which is fine, but they should probably change the name to "That Old-Fashioned Pedal Show". Contrast that with Bea - in the last year or so he's gone from being a high-gain-only player to including blues, classic rock and funk in his repertoire by just working his ass off so that he's able to properly demonstrate more gear.
EDIT: All of that's fine, of course, for an amateur show. When it's a couple of enthusiasts, it's cool...who cares? I think they've transitioned from that into professionals at this point, though, and Dan does try to speak from a position of authority/knowledge, so I think they probably owe it to their audience to try to expand their limits by now.
Pinkshinyultrablast - Grandfeathered
The Twilight Sad - Fourteen Autumns and Fifteen Winters
Ringo Deathstarr - Pure Mood
DIIV - Is the Is Are
As important recent examples of the genre
I get that they wanted to do a lot of single fx type shows and AB comparisons, but there is much more to fx than that. The show seems to be more of a show for those who GAS for different types of the same thing rather than those who want to get into how marvellous pedals can be in defining your sound.
like someone else said, if you're demoing gear that appeals to music outside blues/rock, then you should be able to play something from that generation. I mean, for someone at his level of playing, it shouldn't be hard to learn a few riffs from a few bands of the genre (switch the chords for copyright) and play them with the required effects...
This one along with the delay one were both disappointing in this respect.
Sometimes their shows seem like they are catered for blues rock players, giving them a glimpse into other genres..."look at these other weird music and the stuff they need to make music"