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On the subject of religions and specifically Islam, a big problem with Islam is that there is no supreme authority on Islam. No authority that says this is how we live or the sacred text means that. Local clerics interpret the texts and the result is chaos. As I understand it, Islam is a peaceful religion, a number of fanatics want to portray it otherwise. And the fanatics are winning that battle.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_toward_terrorism
In Germany, 83% of Muslims opposed killing civilians this way, but this drops to only 28% in Nigeria
are you still feeling confident that 99% of Muslims oppose this form of killing?
As a rule of thumb I don't approve of civilian killings but I can certainly think of occasions where I would think they could be justified.
Personally, I suspect that we're going to see retaliations if this carries on, there's always someone angry and mad who can get fired up, and these kinds of massacres must increase the possibility
Irish Catholics had a tough time in Birmingham in the 70s, for example
Dresden, Hiroshima, the crusades, who knows what else....
Some of the people here and elsewhere, blaming someone else's culture, clawing for figures and arguments to support the view, and forgetting the past of our own.... well somehow it strikes me as highly questionable.
how many would sanction bombing civilians to "defend Christianity"?
Anyway, there has been loads of research
typically between 8% and 20% of Muslims actually support IS / Daesh
I could look up the source again if you have your doubts
Consider this: it took the Western world's religions centuries to get away from the our-way-or-die approach. What on earth makes people think that the extreme ends of Islam are going to get there in a decade or two?
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Certainly doesn't look like it from viewing US and British foreign policy over the last few years.
What your numbers do suggest, though, is that at least 80% of Muslims oppose Daesh. I wonder how much higher that number would be if so many non-Muslims hadn't blamed all Muslims for the actions of a tiny handful.
I tend to agree. I know it's a bit lefty and fashionable, but I am still troubled by our instinct to either overrun and occupy other countries, or to buy their businesses out, interfere with their food markets and generally keep them down to make a few quid.
(Sorry I've gone well off the topic, but I'm finding the blame culture on this thread a bit hard to take right now.)
True. Maybe we should be helping them, not pushing them back.
(Not aimed at you directly. I'm just genuinely wondering if there's anything the better people here can do now to make a difference.)
The net result of that is that we - as a society - can develop and adapt much quicker when we're honest about the source of our actions. If we say "It's because god says so!" then we're buggered because we have to wait for accepted translations of the Unchanging Eternal Word of God to change enough that we can re-interpret them to be less murder-y; that usually involves all the people who adhere strictly to that interpretation to die, and then all their students to die too.
If, on the other hand, we say "Yeah, we want to do this because our politics say so" then it's pretty easy to get rid when that doesn't work - just vote somebody else in next time. We did this rather recently, if you recall.