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I hope you read the bit you snipped, where I absolutely wasn't blaming you for the Word Up thing. Hats off that you gave it a whirl.
I think instrumentals can work, but you probably need a dry run, some scribbled chords on the floor, and one person who really knows what's happening to guide people through (unless everyone is very well rehearsed) - a bit like a jam where people get nodded in to do improv at various points.
Although Wipeout could be a giggle
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youThe requirement may be based on who signs up for each jam, but the express provision my also encourage some to attend.
The real problem I have (and I’ve been thinking this for a while) is that from an organisational point of view we can’t expect experienced players to do anything.
We pay for a drummer and they are effectively doing a job (they do love it though!)
But for vocals, bass, and for experienced players, we can only ask so much. It wouldn’t feel right for me to ask an experienced player to sit in a room for an hour or two specifically to help newbies when they have paid up and want to come and jam. This is a volunteer led event, taking time out of people’s weekends and so doing that formally would be, for me, too much.
I always wanted these jams to be newcomer friendly, and to be a way of getting people playing with others who had played lots before. In that regards, they have succeeded. But my worry is I don’t think we can expect the jams to become a tutorial session, or any sort of formal instruction - that’s a step too far for me.
If done informally, on the day, or by private arrangement then I think it’s fine. Making it part of the jam setup just means more admin, more volunteer asks and more pressure on people who have paid to turn up and play.
Point being, you can't spoon feed, and as friendly and welcoming as it is currently, there will always be people who still aren't comfortable enough in that environment to step in. That's NOT a criticism by the way, just a truth.
You have to leave your comfort zone of your own volition. Nobody can make you.
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youIn between my spots in the main room Im happy to jam with whoever and if I or they learn something then great.
That said...if it fits around my main room songs Im happy to impart my limited knowledge on anyone whos willing to listen ;-)
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Im cool to do a short acoustic set in smaller room if some folks prefer that to standing in the main room..maybe not so intimidating?
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At Huddersfield we have the acoustic open mic section of the gig, but even there it turned out that people had practised at home and didn't really need a space for it during the day. There was not a shortage of people willing to play during that hour.
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youMaybe, then, the FB Jam is evolving. The bold section of my earlier point was taken from page 1, first post, but perhaps elements have changed e.g. particularly aimed at.....
As noted by @Legionreturns a number of this years attendees were newbies at Quad a year ago (and have done other Jams since). How many that attended were Jam newbies attending for the first time with no previous experience?
I probably didn't articulate it very well earlier, but my thinking was actually less about asking experienced players specifically to sit in a room and coach, but, more as said by @spark240 to spend time in a development room between main room spots and impart knowledge, plus, I would think, maybe settle a few nerves perhaps. Also, wasn't thinking necessarily about some of the really experienced and accomplished players but also some of the Jam regulars that could pass on knowledge of their learning.
Anyone that has organised presentations with inexperienced presenters will recognise the need to provide support and practice runs before the big day. I don't think that this is about spoon feeding people, but I do think that an element of easing in could be usefully provided. I also agree that the genuinely fun reaction to screw ups is important and needs to keep being reinforced in the Jam announcements.
Ed - as an aside, who is 'you'? I did consider the issue of agreeing one song to practice and I am sure it would not be insurmountable; there is enough discussion about the set list before each jam and selecting one wouldn't be an issue IMO.
Start of the room recording playlist
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youHey Joe 1
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Hey Joe - Take 2
https://soundcloud.com/user-703938053-641465774/02-hey-joe-norm/s-rTPA0?in=user-703938053-641465774/sets/quad-jam-nov-18/s-zrBu3
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