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Ive owned the guitar from new, and consider it to be an ok Les Paul, nothing more.
I also have a modern McCarty which sounds and plays better in every way.
It amuses me slightly that 80s guitars are now beginning to have some vintage mystique attached to them as well.
it really is all in the mind.
The big big difference for me is the neck. It’s played in, it doesn’t have that symmetrical neck wear. The wear on the body feels real, and it can often feel overdone on the relic stuff.
I’ve had a few AVRI Teles and a Strat and for me, they didn’t compare to the real thing.
On big names selling their originals, I think if I’d had decades of fun/experience making classic albums, selling out shows, was a masterful player and could raise a million squid for whatever reason (usually charitable purposes) I’d probably sell up too. I don’t think they’ve thought, “CS guitars are better, I want rid of this old thing” - that decision has been made for lots of reasons only one of which is CS guitars are decent enough for me to use now at this stage of my career and say goodbye to this guitar I have loved.
I've never been blown away with any of them, they have all gone and been replaced with more recent models. They have all been great, but I've never had that wow moment.
I do think there's a lot of hype and romance attached to them, maybe that drove my expectations to be unrealistic. Got to play them for yourself and decide.
The best strat I’ve ever played was a reissue that I’m lucky enough to own.
There are great guitars in any area at any price point, it’s just about finding the ones that speak to you.
Deansgate around 2007.
Ebay mark7777_1
I'm building a dc junior to replace a vintage junior for touring, it's played in c #, it's stoner rock type stuff, juniors do sound bloody good in a rock band
(formerly customkits)
Whether or not guitars sound better as they get older is an interesting question but remember that when all those vintage recordings were made those vintage guitars were in fact new guitars.
The other question is whether the old wood was better, even when it was new - because it was ‘old growth’ timber, and was dried naturally in air over years rather than being kiln dried. This *may* be true, especially for mahogany and rosewood, and possibly for ash, but probably less so for maple. So the argument is that the old guitars sounded better even when they were new. But that’s now impossible to test.
At the end of the day it doesn’t matter though - you can get great sounds from either old or new. The age of the guitar is so far down the list of factors in a guitar sound that it’s irrelevant to anyone except the player, and that’s largely to do with feel rather than tone.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
All Right Now was played on an 11 year old guitar
Albratros on a 9 year old guitar
And Hendrix just about only played new guitars
Maybe the age of the guitar was not important - Just the quality of the guitar - As such I agree with @ICBM 's comment - I would say that the most important thing the vintage guitar market has done is to finally teach the companies how to do it right again...
1969 Strat - 50 yrs old
1976 Yamaha FG145 acoustic - 43 yrs old
1980 Washburn EA30 - 39 yrs old
1989 Epi Sheraton (Samick) - 30 yrs old
1988 USA Tele - 31 yrs old
1990 LP Custom - 29 yrs old
2002 PRS Cu24 - 17 yrs old
2004 50th Anniv USA Strat -15 yrs old
2006 SG Standard -13 yrs old
The question for guitars is, is it one made before (say) 1969, or one made more than (say) 30 years ago? Or to put it another way, do you consider the guitars which were so poor that they started the whole vintage market off in the first place to be vintage themselves now that they're 40 years old?
Discuss...
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Van Halen's black and white and red Strat, and SRV's No.1 were by many accounts utter crap by people who've played them.
I've been lucky enough to have had a lot of bursts in hand, including the Peter Green one, and at least two left handed ones (couldn't play them unfortunately).
According to all around me at the time the Green guitar was a complete pain in the arse to play. Didn't seem to bother Green and Moore though