Gibson/Boogie Partnership?

tekbow · January 2021

The rumour is tearing around the FB groups today.

50% acquisition.

Anyone hear anything?

welshboyo · January 2021

which way? I thought Gibson were on their arse?

tekbow · January 2021

welshboyo said:

which way? I thought Gibson were on their arse?

Gibson bought the shares of MB, allegedly.

Still rumour as far as I can tell just now.

fretmeister · January 2021

Randall Smith must be ancient by now. Maybe none of the existing senior people had the money to buy his part for retirement?

ICBM · January 2021

It would have to be Gibson buying into Mesa - Mesa is tiny by comparison. No way Mesa would borrow enough to buy into Gibson - Gibson itself is having enough trouble with that sort of thing.

Presumably Randall Smith has given a retirement present to himself and Gibson have invested in something that actually makes a good profit.

Form a queue for your pre-Gibson Mesas now...

welshboyo · January 2021

I bet all them bedroom dealers are loving this - they are now pulling out all those old unwanted DC and F-Series combos and peddling them as "pre-Gibson".....

fretmeister · January 2021

And now Gibson will put the prices up again after the drop when Westside were binned.

tekbow · January 2021

ICBM said:

It would have to be Gibson buying into Mesa - Mesa is tiny by comparison. No way Mesa would borrow enough to buy into Gibson - Gibson itself is having enough trouble with that sort of thing.

Presumably Randall Smith has given a retirement present to himself and Gibson have invested in something that actually makes a good profit.

Form a queue for your pre-Gibson Mesas now...

Thing is, it doesnt even have to mean there'll be any changes in terms of production.

It never really panned out that way with Soldano which is as comparable a case as I can think of.

Sure there was a bit of an increase in "Pre-B.A.D" amps but I've seen them generally sell for around £3k. Up a bit on the £2500 of a couple years ago.

I agree with the bedroom dealer thing. Everything is hyped as collectible for Some reason or another now.

welshboyo · January 2021

I'm waiting for the Mesa Joe Bonamassa signature series....

or even worse...the Mesa Hendrix Signature series

StefB · January 2021

Gibson make a Mesa everything they touch.

ICBM · January 2021

tekbow said:

Thing is, it doesnt even have to mean there'll be any changes in terms of production.

It doesn't, but the perception is that it will and so the usual "pre" thing will become a reality even if it doesn't.

Personally, I actually hope something does change - with the resources of Gibson behind them I would like to see Mesa develop digital amps, or even better, modern lightweight analogue solid state or hybrid. They've already got excellent hybrid bass amps, so it wouldn't be a big step really.

fretmeister · January 2021

ICBM said:

tekbow said:

Thing is, it doesnt even have to mean there'll be any changes in terms of production.

It doesn't, but the perception is that it will and so the usual "pre" thing will become a reality even if it doesn't.

Personally, I actually hope something does change - with the resources of Gibson behind them I would like to see Mesa develop digital amps, or even better, modern lightweight analogue solid state or hybrid. They've already got excellent hybrid bass amps, so it wouldn't be a big step really.

I would love the new TT800 bass amp.
Demos sound amazing. One of the designers is on Basschat and it appears to tick all my boxes.

If / when gigs start again I'll be having a serious look.

CarpeDiem · January 2021

I think it would be a good opportunity to develop lower cost amps to widen their market (probably built outside the US) and influence a wider audience as to how versatile the amps are (eg the Mark V). They would also likely expand the pedal side of the business.

Kebabkid · January 2021

Also, Korg has acquired Aguilar

https://guitar.com/news/gear-news/korg-usa-acquires-aguilar-amplification/

StefB · January 2021

In all my days I've never once heard Randall Smith referred to as Randy Smith, must be JC's new bestie already if he's allowed to call him that - https://www.gibson.com/News/Gibson-and-Mesa-Boogie

tekbow · January 2021

The comments

https://www.facebook.com/59345672684/posts/10157954191237685/

PolarityMan · January 2021

fretmeister said:

ICBM said:

tekbow said:

Thing is, it doesnt even have to mean there'll be any changes in terms of production.

It doesn't, but the perception is that it will and so the usual "pre" thing will become a reality even if it doesn't.

Personally, I actually hope something does change - with the resources of Gibson behind them I would like to see Mesa develop digital amps, or even better, modern lightweight analogue solid state or hybrid. They've already got excellent hybrid bass amps, so it wouldn't be a big step really.

I would love the new TT800 bass amp.
Demos sound amazing. One of the designers is on Basschat and it appears to tick all my boxes.

If / when gigs start again I'll be having a serious look.

I thought bass player mostly used the big amp at the front/side/above the stage these days.

fretmeister · January 2021

tekbow said:

The comments

https://www.facebook.com/59345672684/posts/10157954191237685/

Some crackers on there!

fretmeister · January 2021

PolarityMan said:

fretmeister said:

ICBM said:

tekbow said:

Thing is, it doesnt even have to mean there'll be any changes in terms of production.

It doesn't, but the perception is that it will and so the usual "pre" thing will become a reality even if it doesn't.

Personally, I actually hope something does change - with the resources of Gibson behind them I would like to see Mesa develop digital amps, or even better, modern lightweight analogue solid state or hybrid. They've already got excellent hybrid bass amps, so it wouldn't be a big step really.

I would love the new TT800 bass amp.
Demos sound amazing. One of the designers is on Basschat and it appears to tick all my boxes.

If / when gigs start again I'll be having a serious look.

I thought bass player mostly used the big amp at the front/side/above the stage these days.

Not in shite midlands venues with crap PA's they don't!
(Or for gigs where all the other instruments are un-amplified. Big Bands and stuff)

fretmeister · January 2021

I wonder if the binning of Westside had to happen first before this could?

tekbow · January 2021

fretmeister said:

tekbow said:

The comments

https://www.facebook.com/59345672684/posts/10157954191237685/

Some crackers on there!

It's full on going down like a turd in a Mars Bar wrapper.

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