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People buy jazzmasters and order a complete new trem unit at the same time so it works for God sake
I respectfulyl disagree.
Fine tuning to suit your taste, yes. Completely out of wack, no.
You can see in the photo how off it was, if we can see that from pictures, how come the QC guy didn't?
Was he on a break at the time?
Did he just don't care?
Or more worryingly. He thinks that is totally acceptable to send out a guitar set up like that, just because it is on.
We, as customers should NOT accept crap like this. Remember how much these guitars are, if people keep accepting them out of the factory like that then they won't get better with their QC. Gibson needs to take a hint, and this is how you do it.
The attitude that "yeah, I can fix that myself" means it is one aspect of QC they can get away with, and a slippery slope. Before you know it, we would be expected to solder in our own pick ups and pots, i mean its only a few minute's job right?
I mean how difficult is it to set the neck in the right angle, all you need to do is check it with a tool. No one has been able to answer that. How could a guitar with a wrong neck angle get made? seriously, how?
I understand a £200 guitar comes like that but a £2,000 instrument, i expect they pay a guy to set up a guitar PROPERLY and a guy to make sure the last guy did it right. It is why I pay all that money in the first place.
There ought to be a factory standard, there is no way that is a standard factory setting. So the conclusion is that they don't set up the guitar at all, because no way that is acceptable as a well set up guitar.
Wheter one sees the above is "adjusting" or "fixing" is irrelevant, part of the money spent on an instrument of this value is the whole package that it comes as perfect as possible out of the box. The expectation is set higher than that of a £200 instrument, and so it should be.
No guitar comes ready to play as well as it could, because it a different for each person, it can't happen.
Comparing having to screw a thumb wheel to us soldering our own pickups is like saying because your new car needed 5 extra psi in one wheel they will be askin you to connect up the headlights next.
Shall we agree to disagree and let the thread continue on the path it was intended.
I guess my travels over the years mean I just can't help seeing it from an outside perspective, and how all this would seem to some of the musicians I've met along the way.
Not of that alters the relationship between price paid and QC however, and it's only fair that we question everything until we feel we have value for money.
I compelete understand one can't set a guitar to everyone's taste. (the point of luthier's bread and butter income is setting up guitars irrelevant...so Gibson is creating jobs by sending out guitars badly set up on purpose? Pleaseee! )
My point isn't that there is NO WAY IN HELL that guitar in the photo is a standard set up out of the factory, for any factory. If you had to take a wild guess how a guitar would set up, you put it somewhere in the middle of the park, that is clearly way off.
I am sorry, there is no way I am prepare to lower my standard and say that's fine.
As for the OP, I think that chapter is closed, the e-tune doesn't work so it ought to go back.
Anyway, as long as we're all happy with what we have, it's fine. I like good guitars that feel and sound right, don't expect them to be set for my needs, it's why I like what I like I guess. Others like perceived perfection it's why they like what they like.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein