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http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/91662/new-wood-rules-cites-regs-from-january#latest
Right now the EU hasn't actually got the rules in place, so no import license required. However anything coming into the EU now requires the correct export license from the departure country.
EU Inter-state movement is expected to restriction free once the regulations are put in place.
I assume for musicians touring they will have to jump through whatever hoops have previously been in effect for BRW.
Don't bother trying to personally import a guitar with any rosewood on it from outside the EU now - without the export permit, it will not clear customs.
Here's my full blog post on the situation.
http://axecaster.co.uk/blog/?p=3201
Until then we remain full members with all rights/freedoms.
I've bought some in the past, he said he's trying to sort it out but they've had that over 10 years
It wasn't a problem shipping with that before and now it is
I blame the bloody rich Chinese buying loads of the stuff just because they can, they don't give a crap about anybody or anything including whole forests, they want to show everyone how stinking rich they are, what a bloody waste
Very communist if you ask me
(formerly customkits)
While CITES are getting all uppity about slivers of rosewood used on guitars the Chinese are having sideboards etc made out of the stuff.
"Rosewood is also used to make some musical instruments, such as guitars, but the new rules will not prevent musicians travelling with their instruments."
Of course they also have a major problem with corruption in enforcement too, so I'm not expecting miracles...
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Just arrived as a press release within the trade
The MIA will attend a key meeting with CITES/Defra on 12th January followed by an international meeting facilitated by NAMM at the NAMM Show on January 18th.
The information below has been sent to the authorities in response to the many communications we have had with members across the industry (many thanks to so many of you for helping and getting involved).
The comments below were followed by a large number of more specific questions and queries that urgently need answering.
We will let you know as soon as any clarity emerges!
The overriding concerns from our industry involve:
I have enough rosewood that I'm sure the mechanisms for import certification will be established by the time I need to order more.
Of more pressing concern is the registration of my current stocks and, most importantly, export certificates for the guitars I will need to ship in the next few weeks.
I'll call them now and report back.
Yes I got this mail too... all very confusing...
And yes I am also wanting to know in terms of if I happen to sell a guitar overseas..... I guess we will have to wait a bit and see what happens.
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I've spent a not so merry few hours wading through the govt website which raised a few questions which I put to a very helpful person at the APHA.
Most of the information is available here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/cites-imports-and-exports
From a builders perspective, as far as I can tell the situation is as follows.
Unlike other EU countries there are no plans to require registration of current stocks of Rosewood.
To export a guitar you need to complete form FED0172 and enclose documentation that either proves that you purchased the wood pre 1/1/17 or that it was legally imported after that date.
It seems that they understand that providing a country of origin for existing stocks might be difficult although it will be easier if such information were available. The country it was purchased from is likely to be sufficient for now.
It is regarded as a re-export therefore the fee is £59 per application. If shipping multiple guitars to the same address then the fee is £59 plus £1.50 per additional guitar.
I have a guitar which will be ready to ship to the US in a few weeks so I plan to get an application in asap.
Of course the good thing is that they aren't yet in a position to issue certificates so all I can do is wait. They hope that it will be possible by early Feb.
(formerly miserneil)
http://www.rabswoodguitars.co.uk/
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