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There is totally no obligation whatsoever in any way for every event organised through the forum to work this way. If someone sets one up and says "no beginners, it's shred challenge day", that is totally their prerogative.
Now, the Northampton one could go either way as it stands, and my point "I'm not adding much value", frankly, in a jam aimed more towards those with decent live experience, I won't. I'd be better dropping out and watching the videos when you are all done, leaving a place for someone who can help not hinder your performances. You guys have a right to take these things seriously, and I'm a total amateur!
This HAS to be an option for said musicians as this is not just a beginners board. Sometimes you "pros" will want to play without someone standing at the back screwing it up for you, and that is totally fine by me.
Playing the songs multiple times doesn't necessarily help, as you would end up having a "good" version and a "bad" version for, Live Forever, for example, which sucks for the noticeably worse version and won't help anyone's confidence.
@mrkb set it all up, so Mark what's your perception of the day?
I'm honestly not being funny or flouncy at all, as I know for certain that no-one going would dream of discouraging a less experienced player, but if really some "pros" want to get together and play properly, then that is a different thing to an event more aimed at teaching and participating like Leicester was.
Thoughts? Clarification here could help me and possibly a few others.
TBH, some pub jams can degenerate into dick measuring competitions if everyone is at "a certain level" and there are some who genuinely enjoy belittling others to make themselves look better than they are. Frankly these people are cunts and I have no time for them.
So I'd hate to see a seperation of skill levels - and if something falls apart when you are playing it, just smile, laugh and learn from it.
As a bass player I play a lot less notes. Does that make me crap? And believe me, it's easy for a bass line to fall apart no matter how hard you practise
Playing with a more experienced person imo is the fastest was to improve guitar and it can be rewarding on both sides - the learning and the teaching.
and as @impmann said i'd hate to see separation too, i imagine for most of us here this is a hobby, and it's all about spreading the love and having a laugh when things fudge up
I was even tempted to say "screw it, I'll try Plug In Baby again" - sitting down this time, but I don't want to ruin anyones day!
For example, at home I can pretty much nail the intro to Fortunate Son 80% of the time, but at the Jam, no way could I get close. It would have been good to get some thoughts on why and tips for next time to try.
Like @darthed1981, I recognise that not all jams will be suitable and completely get that, (although i might still want to turn up and listen to see what I can pick up).
Unfortunately, the only tip that I've ever found to work is "play with others more often". It's as simple - or as difficult - as that!
And that's why these jam sessions are so good for people making that leap. There are others around with the experience of having made that leap, remember what it's like, and are quite happy to play through the intro "X" times until you nail it.
When you've done it once, you'll do it most every time.
Any connection?
There isn’t a slick backing band at this one - looks like I’ll be playing drums and I’ve only been playing them 2.5 years. So it will mean I make mistakes, but that’s how I’ll learn and progress- If we want/need to run through a song again to help us learn we will do so. it will have the same encouraging atmosphere as the Leicester one. All abilities are welcome as long as they want to join in and are supportive of others.
im on holiday at the moment - can discuss this more at the weekend if needed.
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Playing something is a skill you learn. Playing something live is a different one - it's again all about practise
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@mrkb - happy to try it again if you are not fully occupied
Simple. You haven't practised it enough. If you can't play a piece right every single time at home then you're not going to magically improve when you, possibly nervously, play it in front of others.
There are plenty of excellent, note perfect, bedroom players around. But when they get up to play in a group, they find that it all goes horribly wrong.
Or maybe someone else in the band does something different or unexpected, and the play-alone-perfect can't deal with anything un-practised.
Sure, you need a basic level of competence before getting on a stage, but you'll learn different playing skills on the stage compared to what you'd learn in a bedroom.