R8 Peach Deal

TINMAN82

Twinfan said:

While obviously a great saving, I can't get excited about the 2017 R9s when you know that the only difference to the 2017 R8s is a fancier piece of maple - they are otherwise identical.

I know that's always been the case, except there were the neck profile differences too, but the 40% (!!!) mark up over the R8s is mental!

When did the neck profiles become the same? My 2013 R8 was advertised as a 58 profile. I did notice in gg the other day that some of their R9s had even chunkier necks.

Powerslave

Question - has anyone had any joy approaching "other" dealers carrying 2017 stock (ie: those who are not part of this warehouse blow-out arrangement) and pitch for a "price match" (or, more realistically, a (hefty) discount) on a 58 LP?

I guess those dealers must be feeling pretty sore from a hefty kick in the pips . . .

hyperben

TINMAN82 said:

Twinfan said:

While obviously a great saving, I can't get excited about the 2017 R9s when you know that the only difference to the 2017 R8s is a fancier piece of maple - they are otherwise identical.

I know that's always been the case, except there were the neck profile differences too, but the 40% (!!!) mark up over the R8s is mental!

When did the neck profiles become the same? My 2013 R8 was advertised as a 58 profile. I did notice in gg the other day that some of their R9s had even chunkier necks.

From the guitars I’ve played from this 2017 batch I think the “59 profile” is just sales speak. The neck profiles on the ones I played (both R8s and R9s) have varied as much as they ever have, even before they advertised them as 59 necks. The only thing that does seem to be consistent is the lack of shoulder on the profile. None of the ones I played had D shaped profiles - they were all C profiles. This is most welcome from my perspective as I hate the ones with big shoulders. In terms of chunkiness though there generally seems to be little difference between these 59 neck profiles and the pre-2017 historics. 

crunchman

Twinfan said:

While obviously a great saving, I can't get excited about the 2017 R9s when you know that the only difference to the 2017 R8s is a fancier piece of maple - they are otherwise identical.

I know that's always been the case, except there were the neck profile differences too, but the 40% (!!!) mark up over the R8s is mental!

The resale will be better on the R9.

The R9 is £1000 more, but looking on Reverb, second hand asking prices for R9s look to be slightly over £1000 more than an R8.  There is a range on both R8s and R9s, and asking prices aren't the same as selling prices, but if you have the money, then you won't lose anything long term by buying the R9 rather than an R8.  You might even come out of it a little better off if you end up selling.

I know that you don't go into it intending to sell, but I've had a lot of expensive guitars that I never intended to sell that are now gone.

Fifty9

I agree with the 40% markup for the marginally better maple and potentially lighter guitar being way too much. If all r8s were plain and heavier that’d make sense but we’ve seen the last few years they’ve blurred that quite a lot. Even on the blowout deals thereve been plenty of light, figured tops on the r8s. I’d definitely have bought an r9 at 2.8, maybe 3k but not 3.5. Just a stretch too far for me personally that I cannot justify when I can get a subtly figured, light r8 and keep a grand in my pocket.

@jonathanthonas83, there is some trickery going on in that particular photo also my avatar. I put a selection in the imgur gallery in the link. It’s definitely cherry rather than darkburst but the subtle tight flame is all there. This is without any filter:

 

Jonathanthomas83

Fifty9 said:

I agree with the 40% markup for the marginally better maple and potentially lighter guitar being way too much. If all r8s were plain and heavier that’d make sense but we’ve seen the last few years they’ve blurred that quite a lot. Even on the blowout deals thereve been plenty of light, figured tops on the r8s. I’d definitely have bought an r9 at 2.8, maybe 3k but not 3.5. Just a stretch too far for me personally that I cannot justify when I can get a subtly figured, light r8 and keep a grand in my pocket.

@jonathanthonas83, there is some trickery going on in that particular photo also my avatar. I put a selection in the imgur gallery in the link. It’s definitely cherry rather than darkburst but the subtle tight flame is all there. This is without any filter:

 

Well that still looks gorgeous, mate. Congratulations on a lovely guitar, I love it!

AlexO

Today's the day for me. Just at Barcelona airport waiting for my flight back into Manchester.

Had GG hold off sending it until I was back if my holiday.
Will get some pictures up later, if I don't the Mrs has worked out it's not a £900 LP studio.

Twinfan

hyperben said:

TINMAN82 said:

When did the neck profiles become the same? My 2013 R8 was advertised as a 58 profile. I did notice in gg the other day that some of their R9s had even chunkier necks.

From the guitars I’ve played from this 2017 batch I think the “59 profile” is just sales speak. The neck profiles on the ones I played (both R8s and R9s) have varied as much as they ever have, even before they advertised them as 59 necks. The only thing that does seem to be consistent is the lack of shoulder on the profile.

It's all in the shoulders, depth has always been broadly similar.  Older R8s had very chunky shoulders and R9s more rounded.  The 2017 R8 I bought has a similar smaller shoulder profile as the older R9s.

crunchman said:

Twinfan said:

While obviously a great saving, I can't get excited about the 2017 R9s when you know that the only difference to the 2017 R8s is a fancier piece of maple - they are otherwise identical.

I know that's always been the case, except there were the neck profile differences too, but the 40% (!!!) mark up over the R8s is mental!

The resale will be better on the R9.

The R9 is £1000 more, but looking on Reverb, second hand asking prices for R9s look to be slightly over £1000 more than an R8.  There is a range on both R8s and R9s, and asking prices aren't the same as selling prices, but if you have the money, then you won't lose anything long term by buying the R9 rather than an R8.  You might even come out of it a little better off if you end up selling.

That's a fair point.  "Cost of ownership" could end up less for an R9 I agree.

Dan

Dan said:

So tempted! Got to remember im not a massive fan of LP's and I cant afford it!

Shit.

Managed to get one from guitar guitar and got delivered yesterday. They had at as available for order but not in stock. Put a deposit down and thought nothing of it and didn't think it would come through.

Setup is pretty much spot on. Weight is great at 8.8lbs and neck profile is .9" at 1st and 1" at 12th. Stopbar tailpiece is flat down without the strings touching the bridge, so neck angle is good.

As I said before on here, im a picky bugger at the best of times but this is awesome.

Dan

Forgot to say as well, I missed out on the coda batch but Marc emailed me saying that three more are due in.

mart

Rabs said:

Just saw this at Andertons...  A Standard VOS with £2400 off the RRP (and still too expensive  )

https://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-dept/electric-guitars/electric-guitars/gibson-custom-shop-les-paul-standard-figured-top-vos-psl-in-dirty-lemonburst-cslpstdpsl1133597442

https://i.imgur.com/GBgKlrK.png

...

Somebody should try buying that for £2899, since they’re saying it’s £2400 off and the rrp is £5299. 

Panama_Jack666

Dan said:

Dan said:

So tempted! Got to remember im not a massive fan of LP's and I cant afford it!

Shit.

Managed to get one from guitar guitar and got delivered yesterday. They had at as available for order but not in stock. Put a deposit down and thought nothing of it and didn't think it would come through.

Setup is pretty much spot on. Weight is great at 8.8lbs and neck profile is .9" at 1st and 1" at 12th. Stopbar tailpiece is flat down without the strings touching the bridge, so neck angle is good.

As I said before on here, im a picky bugger at the best of times but this is awesome.

That looks like and pretty accurately describes mine! Excellent!

tomajoha

Shameless vanity shot 

Ossyrocks

The sun is shining today at Maison Ossyrocks. So I did a short porn shoot.

roberty

Dan said:

Dan said:

So tempted! Got to remember im not a massive fan of LP's and I cant afford it!

Shit. 

Managed to get one from guitar guitar and got delivered yesterday. They had at as available for order but not in stock. Put a deposit down and thought nothing of it and didn't think it would come through.

Setup is pretty much spot on. Weight is great at 8.8lbs and neck profile is .9" at 1st and 1" at 12th. Stopbar tailpiece is flat down without the strings touching the bridge, so neck angle is good.

As I said before on here, im a picky bugger at the best of times but this is awesome.

Yeah they're spectacular!  Hope the feeling lasts, congrats

pmbomb

maybe I was wrong about Washed Cherry. 

enjoy, y'all.

mli3

from GG:

I can confirm all stock we were expecting have arrived now, we are not getting any more from Gibson - we may have 1 x Les Paul Standard 1958 Figured Top Washed Cherry VOS NH PSL in stock if this is of interest to you - if I can take you're happy to wait a few minutes I can confirm this

10:34  I can confirm we definitely have 1 x Les Paul Standard 1958 Figured Top Washed Cherry VOS NH PSL @ £2499 - I can send you a secure payment link now if you would like to proceed

We have completely sold out of everything else and won't be taking delivery of anymore sadly

Fortheloveofguitar

 UPS notification ‘out for delivery’ Yay!

Then wife informs me that it’s tattoo day so she’ll be out all day.

Looks like it’l be spending the night in the depot again 

Fifty9

mart said:

Rabs said:

Just saw this at Andertons...  A Standard VOS with £2400 off the RRP (and still too expensive  )

https://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-dept/electric-guitars/electric-guitars/gibson-custom-shop-les-paul-standard-figured-top-vos-psl-in-dirty-lemonburst-cslpstdpsl1133597442

https://i.imgur.com/GBgKlrK.png

...

Somebody should try buying that for £2899, since they’re saying it’s £2400 off and the rrp is £5299. 

I put this to them as a price match with themselves. There was no recognition of the inconsistency and they said the 3.5k was the best they could do on this.

Musicman20

Andertons barely ever price match anyway, IME.