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BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
I’m going to say it. It’s annoyed me for years but I’ve held back until now.

All these debates about tone, tonewoods, how does it affect the tone etc etc

You are ALL WRONG.



You are talking about timbre

Anyway, as you were - back to buying R8’s from Peach ;)
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    Just to be clear - as my comment above wasn’t a joke,

    Tone is our ability to distinguish between the different frequencies in an instrument - bass, mids, treble etc. and the tone control does exactly that - rolls off the treble frequencies to change the balance of tone

    Timbre is our ability to distinguish the unique characteristics of an individual instrument that allow us to tell one from another. 
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  • Do you play riffs instead of motifs or ostinati? Do you use a vibrato effect and call it that? Or tremolo for that matter.
    Please note my communication is not very good, so please be patient with me
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    Do you play riffs instead of motifs or ostinati? Do you use a vibrato effect and call it that? Or tremolo for that matter.
    Don’t get me started on tremolo and vibrato......
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 14474
    You are ALL WRONG.
    Meet the new Emp. (Same as the old Emp!) :)
    You say, atom bomb. I say, tin of corned beef.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    Actually, the Wikipedia article is pretty good on this:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbre
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581

    You are ALL WRONG.
    Meet the new Emp. (Same as the old Emp!) :)
    How very dare you.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13944
    The above looks like a mostly one way conversation...perhaps we're all "tone" deaf.

    Load of old nonsense...or drivel, if I may be so bold.


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    The above looks like a mostly one way conversation...perhaps we're all "tone" deaf.

    Load of old nonsense...or drivel, if I may be so bold.
    Probably. After all, why bother to get the correct word to describe something we are talking about when something close will do. 

    Bit like punctuation I suppose. And nobody gets upset about that
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 7775
    A bit ambiguous tho, what if I came up to you and said:

    "You have beautiful timbre"


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  • KilgoreKilgore Frets: 8600
    edited August 2018
    Does that mean we should be discussing timbretimbers instead of tonewoods?
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    A bit ambiguous tho, what if I came up to you and said:

    "You have beautiful timbre"


    I’d be pleased you can tell my unique sound footprint from another.. 

    And I’d compliment you on your fine looking tache. 

    Not sure about your (tone) knob tho.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    Kilgore said:
    Does that mean we should be discussing timbretimbers instead of tonewoods?
    Yes! Exactly that!


    Controversial as it is, I think you can tell different woods apart in instruments by their timbre. 
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  • JerkMoansJerkMoans Frets: 8794
    ‘Vintage mojo timbres’?

    Sounds shit: it’ll never catch on :D 
    Inactivist Lefty Lawyer
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  • A bit ambiguous tho, what if I came up to you and said:

    "You have beautiful timbre"


    I’d be pleased you can tell my unique sound footprint from another.. 

    And I’d compliment you on your fine looking tache. 

    Not sure about your (tone) knob tho
    It's a moustache, not a tache ;)
    Please note my communication is not very good, so please be patient with me
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16730
    Actually, the Wikipedia article is pretty good on this:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbre
    I think I am going to use clangtint moving forward
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    JerkMoans said:
    ‘Vintage mojo timbres’?

    Sounds shit: it’ll never catch on :D 
    “Vintage” and “mojo” are two of the reasons other instrument players laugh at guitarists already... 

    Ridiculous prices for bolt on neck mass produced instruments and a word that effectively tries to put the beauty of the sound out of the hands of the player - timbre wouldn’t fit.

    I vote for Old Played-in Timbre as being more suitable.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581

    A bit ambiguous tho, what if I came up to you and said:

    "You have beautiful timbre"


    I’d be pleased you can tell my unique sound footprint from another.. 

    And I’d compliment you on your fine looking tache. 

    Not sure about your (tone) knob tho
    It's a moustache, not a tache ;)
    Lol - shiver me timbres
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24581
    WezV said:
    Actually, the Wikipedia article is pretty good on this:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbre
    I think I am going to use clangtint moving forward
    Wow!
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  • JerkMoansJerkMoans Frets: 8794
    JerkMoans said:
    ‘Vintage mojo timbres’?

    Sounds shit: it’ll never catch on :D 
    “Vintage” and “mojo” are two of the reasons other instrument players laugh at guitarists already... 

    Ridiculous prices for bolt on neck mass produced instruments and a word that effectively tries to put the beauty of the sound out of the hands of the player - timbre wouldn’t fit.

    I vote for Old Played-in Timbre as being more suitable.
    But do these Timbrelands Djent? 
    Inactivist Lefty Lawyer
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10339
    Do you play riffs instead of motifs or ostinati? Do you use a vibrato effect and call it that? Or tremolo for that matter.
    Don’t get me started on tremolo and vibrato......
    Please get started on it. It bugs the piss out of me
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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