NAMM - New 20W Marshalls?

Fortheloveofguitar

Hope the build is better than the shitty Jubilee 20 watt reissue.

Damn thing fell apart on me within a few hrs. Input jack broke off the pcb and a button switch failed and wouldn’t engage 

These new models all sound very toppy and thin like the jubilee I had. Very thin with no balls whatsoever 

Twinfan

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Hope the build is better than the shitty Jubilee 20 watt reissue.

Damn thing fell apart on me within a few hrs. Input jack broke off the pcb and a button switch failed and wouldn’t engage 

These new models all sound very toppy and thin like the jubilee I had. Very thin with no balls whatsoever 

Nothing wrong with my Jube, I've used and gigged it solidly for over 2 years.  Maybe you got an odd duff one?

Cranking them up fattens the tone out, like most Marshall's they're not designed to be a low volume home-use amp.

photek

Twinfan said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Hope the build is better than the shitty Jubilee 20 watt reissue.

Damn thing fell apart on me within a few hrs. Input jack broke off the pcb and a button switch failed and wouldn’t engage 

These new models all sound very toppy and thin like the jubilee I had. Very thin with no balls whatsoever 

Nothing wrong with my Jube, I've used and gigged it solidly for over 2 years.  Maybe you got an odd duff one?

Cranking them up fattens the tone out, like most Marshall's they're not designed to be a low volume home-use amp.

Yup, same here my mini jube has had the nuts gigged out of it with no issues (well apart from the power light not working). Sounds fat a fook if you want it to as well.

Edit: Mine is going through a 2x12 cab though so might fatten it up.

DougCoda

They've shipped the 800 heads and the Vintage Combos, we have them so everyone else should do too, only tried the 800 head and it's very good..a return to form

Fortheloveofguitar

Not sure if i like the SLP demos better than the 800

TTBZ

photek said:

Twinfan said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Hope the build is better than the shitty Jubilee 20 watt reissue.

Damn thing fell apart on me within a few hrs. Input jack broke off the pcb and a button switch failed and wouldn’t engage 

These new models all sound very toppy and thin like the jubilee I had. Very thin with no balls whatsoever 

Nothing wrong with my Jube, I've used and gigged it solidly for over 2 years.  Maybe you got an odd duff one?

Cranking them up fattens the tone out, like most Marshall's they're not designed to be a low volume home-use amp.

Yup, same here my mini jube has had the nuts gigged out of it with no issues (well apart from the power light not working). Sounds fat a fook if you want it to as well.

No issues with my Mini Jubilee either - don't gig it but it gets used for a few hours rehearsal a week. I have a bit of valve rattle but that seems pretty common with a lot of small valve combos. And yeah the 1x12 cab can feel a bit boxy especially with the greenback - it comes alive plugged into a 212.

I've decided that although the Studio Vintage would be nice I'm just gonna stick with the Jubilee for now. Prefer the more usable EQ and higher gain without needing pedals.

sweepy

The Plexi does look interesting 

RaymondLin

I’ve always wanted a Plexi....and I already have a 1 x 12 Bogner cab...

how much are these?

andyoz

Do we know if they use 1 x valve in 5w mode?

ICBM

andyoz said:

Do we know if they use 1 x valve in 5w mode?

Not yet, but it's one of the likely possibilities, along with half HT voltage. (Half voltage swing gives a quarter of the power.) It won't be triode because that gives around half power - that's what the original Jubilees had.

If someone would like to buy one and send it to me for reverse engineering I would be happy to find out. Should only take a couple of years...

andyoz

Could Coda look thru the rear grille and see if only one valve lights up in 5w mode

ICBM

andyoz said:

Could Coda look thru the rear grille and see if only one valve lights up in 5w mode

That won't be how it's done, even if it is - the filament remains on even if no signal is going through the valve.

Jason

The Plexi sounds (to me) just like you want one to sound, I played one for a couple of hours two weeks ago, I'm having one. Even at 5w it was bloody loud.

sweepy

Might try one at the show

Jason

sweepy said:

Might try one at the show

Just not in the quiet times

I think you'll like it

not_the_dj

Just seen a “look inside” video someone’s posted on YouTube. 

Anything that looks troublesome in there @ICBM ?

https://youtu.be/zBJ13aNBsv8

sweepy

Untrained eye but that looks cheap and cheerful

ICBM

It’s not too bad... but it is a bit cheap, as sweepy said.

No proper box chassis, cheap (I think Chinese) transformers, loads of jumper connectors and crappy pots are all less than ideal, although not necessarily that likely to cause trouble.

But not as well made as a Jet City - for an amp with a similar level of complexity they should be closer than that. The circuit is also more complex than an original 2203, but most of that is probably due to the power stage switching.

One of the criticisms in that video is just ignorance - no, there is no bias pot... because it’s cathode biased! In fact, it appears to be separately biased with one 150-ohm resistor per power valve, which probably confirms that the 5W mode is single-ended.

VerodaClient

The studio vintage sounds great in the videos I've seen. The only thing that is keeping me from pulling the trigger is volume with a (bloody loud) drummer.. if any of ye lads get a chance to try it out live I'd be very interested!

Nerine

One thing they definitely got wrong with the 800 version is that it looks wrong. The edges of the cabinet look too big for the logo and rest of the amp IMO. Isn't proportioned very well. 

Its only a small thing, but it's that kind of thing that makes it look a bit naff IMO. Like a toy. 

Im sure they sound alright, but even so...irks me.