Derivative bands?

NelsonP

Inspired by the off topic conversation on the Glastonbury thread, which bands have famously been inspired by others, to the point of being labelled derivative?

oh_pollo

Teenage Fanclub's Bandwagonesque was roundly derided for being a Big Star rip off. It was described as, " ... an album so in thrall to Chilton, Bell, and company that some critics had taken to calling it "Big Star's 4th."

In hindsight while it certainly doffs a cap to Alex Chilton, the album's it's own thing and now considered a bit of a classic.

ICBM

Led Zeppelin

Winny_Pooh

Loads of bands that came after Van Halen in the 80's and Nirvana in the 90's

HerrMetal

ICBM said:

Kingdom Come

HerrMetal

ICBM said:

Greta Van Fleet

WiresDreamDisasters

Tacoma Narrows Bridge Disaster sound just like Tool

Philly_Q

Greta Van Fleet, Kingdom Come

Rhino Bucket, Airbourne

prowla

ELO

simonhpieman

The Bravery felt pretty "Killers" at the time.

Coral/Zutons

Beach Boys/Thrills

Beatles/Oasis

fretmeister

Airbourne really are just an AC/DC tribute.

EricTheWeary

fretmeister said:

Airbourne really are just an AC/DC tribute.

No, Airbourne are just a Krokus tribute! 

stickyfiddle

The fucking Courteeners. 

If ever you want an example of how modern music is massively shit just remember these guys are regularly headlining festivals despite most of their songs sounding like dour Kasabian b-sides. 

And I don't get Kasabian either. All the swagger of Oasis without any of the songs.

thegummy

simonhpieman said:

The Bravery felt pretty "Killers" at the time.

Coral/Zutons

Beach Boys/Thrills

Beatles/Oasis

The Kinks / Blur

The Clash / The Libertines

Kittyfrisk

HerrMetal said:

ICBM said:

Kingdom Come

@HerrMetal ;
@ICBM is talented, but I never had him down as a ventriloquist.

Would that be Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come?

Kittyfrisk

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Tacoma Narrows Bridge Disaster sound just like a Tool

FTFY   

Cookiemonster

Joy division / interpol
Interpol/killers

thegummy

Just listing these is too easy and could effortlessly continue til everyone got bored of it.

A better game would be for people to state the names of artists they think aren't derivitive and others can then enlighten them on who they are derived from.

Because even the Beatles are derivitve so I don't think anyone could win the game.

(Only meaning artists that a decent amount of people actually like, not some obscure pretentous hipster who records 5 minutes of the radio between stations)

darthed1981

stickyfiddle said:

The fucking Courteeners. 

If ever you want an example of how modern music is massively shit just remember these guys are regularly headlining festivals despite most of their songs sounding like dour Kasabian b-sides. 

And I don't get Kasabian either. All the swagger of Oasis without any of the songs.

I cant argue with those actually

thegummy

Also, instead of seeing artists as either original or derivitive, I think it's much more interesting (and more accurate) to look in to the evolution of music.

One band were inspired by another and played like them but then changed a certain element. Another band liked that band but changed another element etc.

E.g. blues > rock n roll > Beatles style rock > hard rock like Deep Purple > early metal > harder metal > etc.

No one went from haven't having heard any music to picking up a guitar and deciding to hold down strings randomly and strummed til it sounded good - it's always the case of learning a base then building on it.

Kittyfrisk

thegummy said:

Just listing these is too easy and could effortlessly continue til everyone got bored of it.

A better game would be for people to state the names of artists they think aren't derivitive and others can then enlighten them on who they are derived from.

Because even the Beatles are derivitve so I don't think anyone could win the game.

(Only meaning artists that a decent amount of people actually like, not some obscure pretentous hipster who records 5 minutes of the radio between stations)

Too right to your first statement.
But, I suspect that there cannot possibly be a genuinely non-derivative artist, as that would mean they would have to have existed in total isolation until they finally produced a work, based on ???
Plus, all musicologists & researchers would be out of a job. 

However in the spirit of the question, Captain Beefheart.