Prosecutors unseal sex trafficking charges against Jeffrey Epstein

boogieman

Dontgiveupyourdayjob said:

Did I just hear that right on the news? He was taken OFF suicide watch a couple of days ago?!  

One of the most high profile prisoners on the planet, less than a couple of weeks from a previous failed suicide attempt, and he gets taken OFF suicide watch. Either some Grade A incompetence from the prison, or there's something fishy going on....

You think? 
  

breakstuff

Kilgore said:

Kilgore said:

VimFuego said:

this one, if true (allegedly etc) has the potential to make the Saville thing look like a vicars tea party. Gonna be some squeaky bums over the next few months and years. Can't wait to see who he throws under the bus to reduce his sentence, 

You can't put a dead man on trial. 

Ahem...
Posted 12/7

Dontgiveupyourdayjob said:

So who do we reckon ordered the hit/'suicide'?

Top 3 in the betting IMO

1. Trump
2. British Royal Family
3. The Clintons
4 kilgore
  

JezWynd

A lot of documents were released a couple of days ago that pointed up how aberrant his behaviour had been over the years. Perhaps it was a tipping point for him - made him realise that he was unlikely to be ever released. That said, his treatment in gaol seems odd; locking him up in a cell with an ex cop on murder charges, taking him off suicide watch etc. Conspiracy nuts are going to have a field day with this one.

goldtop

If it was all about blackmail, and if the SDNY prosecutors are going to run with the evidence, one body may not be enough.

People with big money can't work out quite how he was so wealthy so quickly and so quietly: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html

Axe_meister

p90fool said:

Axe_meister said:

Would be perfect excuse to skip a generation and make William King rather than Charles

I would trust Charles not to have been at dodgy parties in the US far more than I'd trust William...

My thinking was just skip that generation completely, too many potential skeletons in the closet, get Andrew as far away as possible from the king/Queen

Kilgore

breakstuff said:

Kilgore said:

Kilgore said:

VimFuego said:

this one, if true (allegedly etc) has the potential to make the Saville thing look like a vicars tea party. Gonna be some squeaky bums over the next few months and years. Can't wait to see who he throws under the bus to reduce his sentence, 

You can't put a dead man on trial. 

Ahem...
Posted 12/7

Dontgiveupyourdayjob said:

So who do we reckon ordered the hit/'suicide'?

Top 3 in the betting IMO

1. Trump
2. British Royal Family
3. The Clintons
4 kilgore
  

Rumours that I am or ever have been a "hit man" are without merit. I may have been in New York at the time, but I was just visiting my cousin Mikey, his momma makes the best pasta sauce.

darthed1981

Heartfeltdawn said:

darthed1981 said:

He was in a position to turn the alleged and unproven accusations against Prince Andrew into actual potential charges.  

The idea that a senior royal was having sex with underage girls could easily bring down the monarchy.

I'd be amazed if it wasn't the British government who did it.

The fact he's dead suggests Chris Grayling wasn't involved. 

He was originally, but he hired an assassination firm without assassins...

darthed1981

axisus said:

darthed1981 said:

The idea that a senior royal was having sex with underage girls could easily bring down the monarchy.

I can't see that bringing down the monarchy, it's just Prince Andrew that would be shafted. 

Well it COULD do so, certainly would do enough damage that in their place I'd have the guy offed, he was hardly a nice bloke, it isn't a big loss.

Let's face it after they hounded that chap in the Thom Yorke song to his death for simply telling the truth (assuming they didn't just off him) I'd not put this past our government one little bit.

That's not me suddenly believing in conspiracy bollocks either, we very obviously off people when there is a pressing national security need to do so and then not tell anyone, so that's all that happened here.

JezWynd

Back story...

Freebird

Axe_meister said:

p90fool said:

Axe_meister said:

Would be perfect excuse to skip a generation and make William King rather than Charles

I would trust Charles not to have been at dodgy parties in the US far more than I'd trust William...

My thinking was just skip that generation completely, too many potential skeletons in the closet, get Andrew as far away as possible from the king/Queen

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

ICBM

Freebird said:

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

Then Boris Johnson would be our head of state.

octatonic

ICBM said:

Freebird said:

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

Then Boris Johnson would be our head of state.

I don’t think he’ll still be around in the time it would take to convert to a republic.

Kilgore

ICBM said:

Freebird said:

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

Then Boris Johnson would be our head of state.

We're a parliamentary system. We would have to have a largely honourary President. Personally, I would like to see Bob Mortimer get the job, failing that, Rylan or David Walliams.

darthed1981

octatonic said:

ICBM said:

Freebird said:

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

Then Boris Johnson would be our head of state.

I don’t think he’ll still be around in the time it would take to convert to a republic.

Yup, will take at least a fortnight, he won't last that long.

darthed1981

Kilgore said:

ICBM said:

Freebird said:

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

Then Boris Johnson would be our head of state.

We're a parliamentary system. We would have to have a largely honourary President. Personally, I would like to see Bob Mortimer get the job, failing that, Rylan or David Walliams.

Why can't we just give Ariana Grande the job?  Everyone loves her, and we could crack one off to banknotes?

stimpsonslostson

darthed1981 said:

Kilgore said:

ICBM said:

Freebird said:

Why not end the monarchy, it would be a lot easier 

Then Boris Johnson would be our head of state.

We're a parliamentary system. We would have to have a largely honourary President. Personally, I would like to see Bob Mortimer get the job, failing that, Rylan or David Walliams.

Why can't we just give Ariana Grande the job?  Everyone loves her, and we could crack one off to banknotes?

I already do. 

JezWynd

goldtop said:

If it was all about blackmail, and if the SDNY prosecutors are going to run with the evidence, one body may not be enough.

Ghislaine Maxwell will be sleeping with the lights on for a while.

axisus

All that money and you can't find yourself a better life to live.

stickyfiddle

I can’t help feeling a bit suspicious after the photo of him being removed from the facility in full view of the paparazzi and sans-bodybag. When does that ever happen?

Given the amount of ridiculous shit happening in recent months and years I honestly wonder whether he’s actually made a deal to roll on everyone (and avoid a violent death in prison) and quietly gone into witness protection. The only way to stop his powerful acquaintances going after him is to make them believe he’s dead.

Freebird

stickyfiddle said:

I can’t help feeling a bit suspicious after the photo of him being removed from the facility in full view of the paparazzi and sans-bodybag. When does that ever happen?

Given the amount of ridiculous shit happening in recent months and years I honestly wonder whether he’s actually made a deal to roll on everyone (and avoid a violent death in prison) and quietly gone into witness protection. The only way to stop his powerful acquaintances going after him is to make them believe he’s dead.

Either that, or he's on a tropical island somewhere, and he's not ratting on nobody.