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ewalewal Frets: 1144
Yeah I know itheres another well worn thread but I'm having my own car procrastination moment... I've got a 2010 Ceed estate that I'm looking to replace. I'm looking for another auto estate. I've found another Ceed estate which ticks the boxes - 2018 reg, 11k miles at £12.5k. Seems well priced, Kia approved, etc.

So why am I still looking? Part of wants to try something else and part of wants to look for longer so I can be sure this is the right deal. My wife's friend is a local car salesman and he has suggested an Auris hybrid which is interesting, but it's a bit more expensive, it's a 2016 and much higher miles - 47k.

I should really just accept the Ceed is as good as I'll get for that sort of money shouldn't I?
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  • RaymondLinRaymondLin Frets: 4693
    It’s hard to beat a 2018 plate car for £12k to be honest.
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  • DanRDanR Frets: 751
    Year old car with 12k on it will be an rental car.

    Just make sure you check it well.
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  • SouthpawMarkSouthpawMark Frets: 615
    I’d get a green Veloster if I were you.
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  • strtdvstrtdv Frets: 1514
    edited July 10
    DanR said:
    Year old car with 12k on it will be an rental car.

    Just make sure you check it well.
    It's got 6 years warranty left though should any issues arise.

    I'd take it for a test drive and have a good look at it, but you're unlikely to find a more practical car with a long warranty for £12k.

    The only other car I'd look at if I were you is a Kia Optima if you're prepared to increase the budget a bit and accept a 2017 car. They're substantially nicer inside than the Ceed in my opinion, and the boot is cavernous while still offering very good back seat legroom (much better than the Ceed)
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  • ZoolooterZoolooter Frets: 435
    Just buy an older 6 cylinder BMW. Everything else is just hog wash.
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 2666
    edited July 11
    DanR said:
    Year old car with 12k on it will be an rental car.

    Just make sure you check it well.
    Not at all, I cover 12k 15k regularly each year, that’s why I have gone Hybrid
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    There's a couple of Optimas at the dealer witg the Ceed. Look ideal, but £16k, a big step up.

    I think these will be ex-rental cars - most 1 year old cars on sale will be.
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  • DiscoStuDiscoStu Frets: 3204
    edited July 11
    If the hatchback model is anything to go by then the Skoda Octavia Estate will have masses of bootspace in the back.

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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    Yeah. The Octavia's on my short-list alongside the Ceed. Alot of similarities - good value, reliable, well built, decent load space.

    They don't have a 7 year warranty though, and I haven't found an actual deal for an Octavia as good as the Ceed one.
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  • DanRDanR Frets: 751
    sweepy said:
    DanR said:
    Year old car with 12k on it will be an rental car.

    Just make sure you check it well.
    Not at all, I cover 12k 15k regularly each year, that’s why I have gone Hybrid
    And did you trade it in after a year of ownership from new?
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  • RaymondLinRaymondLin Frets: 4693
    I think the Octavia is a better built, more solid car with better materials to the touch.  My friend has a VRS and its pretty nice.
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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 230
    Had an Auris estate as a hire car for a month and it was woeful. My nephew bought an Octavia Auto estate last year and later discovered the gearbox was knackered apparently a known issue with the Autobox. 
    I'd stick with the Ceed at that price.Its a decent car and that 6 year warranty gives you piece of mind.
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    bobblehat said:
    Had an Auris estate as a hire car for a month and it was woeful. My nephew bought an Octavia Auto estate last year and later discovered the gearbox was knackered apparently a known issue with the Autobox. 
    I'd stick with the Ceed at that price.Its a decent car and that 6 year warranty gives you piece of mind.
    Interesting - I did see one review of the Auris hybrid that said the CVT gearbox was noisy especially when going up hills etc. Was that your problem with it? If so, I reckon I'd steer clear, the 7 speed DCT box in the Ceed is likely to be a lot more relaxed when pushed.
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  • randellarandella Frets: 2231
    DanR said:
    Year old car with 12k on it will be an rental car.

    Just make sure you check it well.
    I found this with the nearly new stuff. The ex-rentals were probably mechanically ok but were cosmetically scruffy. If it worries you, the previous name on the registration gives it away - ERAC Holdings = Enterprise Rent a Car etc.  Google for a full list. 

    In the end I found a dealer demo at 9 months old for a similar price and went with that. 

    If you've got the warranty you should be good. 
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 4988
    edited July 11
    Test driven a couple of CVT Toyotas - both were ridiculously noisy under acceleration and neither was particularly pleasant to drive.

    On holiday recently I rented a Kia Sportage auto which I was very impressed with - car felt sturdy, autobox was unobtrusive and worked well, and car was surprisingly comfortable. Right now, if I had to choose between Toyota or Kia, I'd definitely pick the Kia.

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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 2666
    DanR said:
    sweepy said:
    DanR said:
    Year old car with 12k on it will be an rental car.

    Just make sure you check it well.
    Not at all, I cover 12k 15k regularly each year, that’s why I have gone Hybrid
    And did you trade it in after a year of ownership from new?
    No, it's my wife's motability car, you need the extra mileage allowance for Hospital visits etc, handy as it feels as though I spend all my days off at the Oxford Oncology Dept
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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 230
    ewal said:
    bobblehat said:
    Had an Auris estate as a hire car for a month and it was woeful. My nephew bought an Octavia Auto estate last year and later discovered the gearbox was knackered apparently a known issue with the Autobox. 
    I'd stick with the Ceed at that price.Its a decent car and that 6 year warranty gives you piece of mind.
    Interesting - I did see one review of the Auris hybrid that said the CVT gearbox was noisy especially when going up hills etc. Was that your problem with it? If so, I reckon I'd steer clear, the 7 speed DCT box in the Ceed is likely to be a lot more relaxed when pushed.
    Yes , the CVT was noisy. I've also had a Sportage for a few weeks and the auto was fine.
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  • SouthpawMarkSouthpawMark Frets: 615
    Might have been a demonstrator, or maybe the previous owner has a job that required a decent amount of driving. 

    Selling a car after a year, with high mileage doesn’t automatically mean that it’s been thrashed or abused by a car rental firm. I’m currently selling a year old car which I’ve had from new with 20k miles on it. Some people just do a decent amount of miles, and decide they want something different. 
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    I reckon these cars are ex-fleet though - there was another one year old Ceed estate at the same dealership with similar miles. Suspect the Optimas also come from the same source. You tend to see this when you're keeping an eye on the market - particular makes and models appear in batches. There wasn't any Hyundai's a couple of weeks ago, and now there's a few i40s and i30s kicking about. Suppose it's more noticeable up here because it's a smaller market.

    I'm not particularly bothered about buying an ex-rental or fleet car - it doesn't automatically mean it's been thrashed. I've never thrashed any rental cars I've had, too feart of surcharges when I take them back! Also if a car's been abused, then there will be signs to look out for.
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    Reckon I'll contact the dealer to get the numbers, then make a final decision on viewing this weekend. Assuming it's still available!
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  • SeshSesh Frets: 1166
    Bought a 2018 Peugeot 2008 for under £11k. Not an estate but might be a different option for you to consider.
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  • welshboyowelshboyo Frets: 1137
    As per my comments in the "other" thread - Approved used all the way for me - OK, you might pay a little bit of a premium for it, but you have the comfort of brand reputation etc to help you out if there was a problem.
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  • HaychHaych Frets: 987
    Zoolooter said:
    Just buy an older 6 cylinder BMW. Everything else is just hog wash.

    ^ This!  The auto gearboxes are awesome and when you wind that straight six up it'll make you grin ear to ear.
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    Sesh said:
    Bought a 2018 Peugeot 2008 for under £11k. Not an estate but might be a different option for you to consider.
    My wife says we shouldn't get a French car because of a bad experience we had with a Grand Scenic. I know that's unfair and unscientific, but I daren't ignore this 'rule'. If we bought a French car then things went wrong - I'd have to bear the burden of responsibility!
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  • DanRDanR Frets: 751
    Our contracts with the rental car companies are they must come back at a year old and under certain mileage typically 15k.

    Thats the generally agreed terms with 90% of manufacturers.

    Cars are graded then sold to dealers and we tidy them up so look passable and sell them on for a fair bit cheaper than demos or manufacturer approved cars.

    If it is ex multi user it needs to be stated on the advert or they must tell you before you buy it.

    If not you can just return it for your money back.

    When I worked at Kia our warranty wasn’t that great and you must be able to prove Kia parts through its entire life and not miss anything.
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  • HaychHaych Frets: 987
    edited July 11
    ewal said:
    Sesh said:
    Bought a 2018 Peugeot 2008 for under £11k. Not an estate but might be a different option for you to consider.
    My wife says we shouldn't get a French car because of a bad experience we had with a Grand Scenic. I know that's unfair and unscientific, but I daren't ignore this 'rule'. If we bought a French car then things went wrong - I'd have to bear the burden of responsibility!


    Unfortunately I have nothing good to say about French cars.  I've had a couple, as has my sister, and we've both had stupid faults with them that no other car has ever suffered with.  After fixing her Megane last time (I was fixing it a lot) and then after my Citroen packed up in spectacular fashion I swore I'd never touch another French car again!

    I know many more people will have nothing but good things to say about French cars but IME they are built to a price and for a short lifecycle. EDIT: They are built to be bought new and replaced when the warranty runs out.

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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    Re Kia warranty - we found it quite good with this car. Can't remember exact details of when we used it, but definitely once with an electric window failure which was fixed with no questions asked.
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    Re no French car rule - it's only based on limited anecdotal experience - but it at least helps the short-listing process.
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  • DanRDanR Frets: 751
    I’m the 7 years I sold Renault I had less issues with cars than 2 years of selling Kia.
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1144
    And that's why the rule is unfair - personal experience tends to overly influence decisions. My wife's remembering the Grand Scenic timing belt going just before our holiday trip which meant we ended up scrambling about to rent a car, change ferry bookings etc. These memories run deep!
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