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  • The only thing I ended up buying was one of these which I needed anyway. Not a massive saving really, but enough to choose this over another polytune or TU-3:


    What are those plugs in the tube screamer?
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • @thecolourbox - aye, same here! I'm trying to build a very compact board, and a tuner is one of those must-haves that will be on there, but doesn't really need to be footswitchable to be honest so this just seems like a sensible idea. I'll likely run it from the tuner out of whatever wah / wah-vol I end up buying.
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  • I was all on track for a wise and fruitless black Friday. Then I caved and ordered a pink Jackson sl4x this morning. Just put me in the sewer with all the other black Friday junkies
    I've been on the fence about an SL4X for ages, but a couple of weeks ago I went for the SL3X instead. I think the bridge humbucker is more useful for me, and it was probably an early Black Friday sale: £609 reduced to £399 in Guitar Guitar


    Nice! How are you finding it? The SSS suited me a bit better and I'll probably Wang some telecaster pickups in it. They're pretty much the same guitar though ey? This'll be my first Jackson and first ever Floyd, looking forward to something a little different 
    Just ordered an SL4X for £349, that extra £50 discount tipped me over. Was considering some version of a Satriani sig for more modern playing but the Jackson is much cooler. Went for baby blue, didn’t have the cojones for shocking orange or pink. Looks like awesome value for a through neck with a Floyd. 

    I believe these aren’t SSS but three Duncan Designed Hot Rails, so triple single coil sized humbuckers with proper Strat-style out of phase positions. 
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  • I was all on track for a wise and fruitless black Friday. Then I caved and ordered a pink Jackson sl4x this morning. Just put me in the sewer with all the other black Friday junkies
    I was looking at the amazing deals on those last night. Well done. Amazing bargain 
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  • I was all on track for a wise and fruitless black Friday. Then I caved and ordered a pink Jackson sl4x this morning. Just put me in the sewer with all the other black Friday junkies
    I've been on the fence about an SL4X for ages, but a couple of weeks ago I went for the SL3X instead. I think the bridge humbucker is more useful for me, and it was probably an early Black Friday sale: £609 reduced to £399 in Guitar Guitar


    Nice! How are you finding it? The SSS suited me a bit better and I'll probably Wang some telecaster pickups in it. They're pretty much the same guitar though ey? This'll be my first Jackson and first ever Floyd, looking forward to something a little different 
    Just ordered an SL4X for £349, that extra £50 discount tipped me over. Was considering some version of a Satriani sig for more modern playing but the Jackson is much cooler. Went for baby blue, didn’t have the cojones for shocking orange or pink. Looks like awesome value for a through neck with a Floyd. 

    I believe these aren’t SSS but three Duncan Designed Hot Rails, so triple single coil sized humbuckers with proper Strat-style out of phase positions. 
    They are hot rails; my SL3X has them in the middle and neck positions. Not sure about the out of phase sounds tbh; I don't think I've really played with positions 2 & 4 that much
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • thegummythegummy Frets: 3124
    The only thing I ended up buying was one of these which I needed anyway. Not a massive saving really, but enough to choose this over another polytune or TU-3:


    The tube screamer has its fingers in its ears like it really doesn't want to listen
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  • I was all on track for a wise and fruitless black Friday. Then I caved and ordered a pink Jackson sl4x this morning. Just put me in the sewer with all the other black Friday junkies
    I've been on the fence about an SL4X for ages, but a couple of weeks ago I went for the SL3X instead. I think the bridge humbucker is more useful for me, and it was probably an early Black Friday sale: £609 reduced to £399 in Guitar Guitar


    Nice! How are you finding it? The SSS suited me a bit better and I'll probably Wang some telecaster pickups in it. They're pretty much the same guitar though ey? This'll be my first Jackson and first ever Floyd, looking forward to something a little different 
    Just ordered an SL4X for £349, that extra £50 discount tipped me over. Was considering some version of a Satriani sig for more modern playing but the Jackson is much cooler. Went for baby blue, didn’t have the cojones for shocking orange or pink. Looks like awesome value for a through neck with a Floyd. 

    I believe these aren’t SSS but three Duncan Designed Hot Rails, so triple single coil sized humbuckers with proper Strat-style out of phase positions. 
    Yeah SSS hot rails - I've seen a few guys on youtube with texas special telecaster pickups in there however. I have a set of Bare Knuckle Yardbirds I might be tempted to try in the bridge and neck. Mine is arriving today I am very excited!!!!
    Was a little terrified of the floyd but I've had a look at some set up vids and it seems simple enough.
    When is yours arriving?
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  • The SL4X arrived today - Haven't plugged it in yet but impressed with the finish APART from the fretboard, which looks like it's covered in glue or some sh**. Anyway I'll sort that out and send Andertons a message....
    This thing is seriously PINK and in need of a good set up, but after an initial play I cannot believe this is the first thin necked flat radius guitar I've played - Where has this been all my life I felt like a better player after about 30 seconds!
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  • FYI - PMT have reduced the price of the Line 6 HX Stomp to match GAK.

    You can still use the code to get 10% off. £379 - 10%!

    Couldn't resist. Never seen one that cheap.
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  • The SL4X arrived today - Haven't plugged it in yet but impressed with the finish APART from the fretboard, which looks like it's covered in glue or some sh**. Anyway I'll sort that out and send Andertons a message....
    This thing is seriously PINK and in need of a good set up, but after an initial play I cannot believe this is the first thin necked flat radius guitar I've played - Where has this been all my life I felt like a better player after about 30 seconds!
    Get some photos up!
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • Ack! the sl4x is very tempting. I sold my Charvel Spectrum a few years back and the Jackson seems to fix a number of things that irritated me about the Spectrum.  I just have too many guitars and need to get shot of a couple first.
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  • jhalliday89jhalliday89 Frets: 37
    edited December 2019
    The SL4X arrived today - Haven't plugged it in yet but impressed with the finish APART from the fretboard, which looks like it's covered in glue or some sh**. Anyway I'll sort that out and send Andertons a message....
    This thing is seriously PINK and in need of a good set up, but after an initial play I cannot believe this is the first thin necked flat radius guitar I've played - Where has this been all my life I felt like a better player after about 30 seconds!
    Get some photos up!
    Very bad lighting in the office and on a crappy camera phone but here you go...

    https://ibb.co/McRZ7bM

    I have to say it sounds amazing, not digging the 9s???? that are on this guitar however, will be getting set up with 11s ASAP. 
    Sounds like a strat in the 2nd and 5th and it absolutely screams in 1st with some drive. I was terrified of the Floyd too but Ive given this thing a few hours of non stop abuse and it barely went out of tune. 
    Fretboard needs a good conditioning and it'll need a further set up when the big strings go on... But for 350 quid I'm absolutely delighted
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  • Very nice, I like that a lot @jhalliday89 :)
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • The SL4X arrived today - Haven't plugged it in yet but impressed with the finish APART from the fretboard, which looks like it's covered in glue or some sh**. Anyway I'll sort that out and send Andertons a message....
    This thing is seriously PINK and in need of a good set up, but after an initial play I cannot believe this is the first thin necked flat radius guitar I've played - Where has this been all my life I felt like a better player after about 30 seconds!
    Get some photos up!
    Very bad lighting in the office and on a crappy camera phone but here you go...

    https://ibb.co/McRZ7bM

    I have to say it sounds amazing, not digging the 9s???? that are on this guitar however, will be getting set up with 11s ASAP. 
    Sounds like a strat in the 2nd and 5th and it absolutely screams in 1st with some drive. I was terrified of the Floyd too but Ive given this thing a few hours of non stop abuse and it barely went out of tune. 
    Fretboard needs a good conditioning and it'll need a further set up when the big strings go on... But for 350 quid I'm absolutely delighted
    Not sure I'm so happy with mine.  My fingertips are black after 2 mins of playing, seems to be some weird graphite-type stuff on all the frets, I think the board is ok.

    Main problem is the microphony.  I can speak into bridge and middle pickups and hear my voice through the amplifier.  It squeals with microphonic feedback with normal levels of gain.  Very weird.  Not usable.  @skullfunkerry have you tried yours with some gain?  Any signs of microphony?


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  • skullfunkerryskullfunkerry Frets: 1600
    edited December 2019
    The SL4X arrived today - Haven't plugged it in yet but impressed with the finish APART from the fretboard, which looks like it's covered in glue or some sh**. Anyway I'll sort that out and send Andertons a message....
    This thing is seriously PINK and in need of a good set up, but after an initial play I cannot believe this is the first thin necked flat radius guitar I've played - Where has this been all my life I felt like a better player after about 30 seconds!
    Get some photos up!
    Very bad lighting in the office and on a crappy camera phone but here you go...

    https://ibb.co/McRZ7bM

    I have to say it sounds amazing, not digging the 9s???? that are on this guitar however, will be getting set up with 11s ASAP. 
    Sounds like a strat in the 2nd and 5th and it absolutely screams in 1st with some drive. I was terrified of the Floyd too but Ive given this thing a few hours of non stop abuse and it barely went out of tune. 
    Fretboard needs a good conditioning and it'll need a further set up when the big strings go on... But for 350 quid I'm absolutely delighted
    Not sure I'm so happy with mine.  My fingertips are black after 2 mins of playing, seems to be some weird graphite-type stuff on all the frets, I think the board is ok.

    Main problem is the microphony.  I can speak into bridge and middle pickups and hear my voice through the amplifier.  It squeals with microphonic feedback with normal levels of gain.  Very weird.  Not usable.  @skullfunkerry have you tried yours with some gain?  Any signs of microphony?


    Oh no, that's not good. I use a lot of gain, I haven't noticed that at all... I haven't tried speaking into them though, I must admit!

    EDIT: now that I've watched the video, mine definitely isn't like that... 
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • The SL4X arrived today - Haven't plugged it in yet but impressed with the finish APART from the fretboard, which looks like it's covered in glue or some sh**. Anyway I'll sort that out and send Andertons a message....
    This thing is seriously PINK and in need of a good set up, but after an initial play I cannot believe this is the first thin necked flat radius guitar I've played - Where has this been all my life I felt like a better player after about 30 seconds!
    Get some photos up!
    Very bad lighting in the office and on a crappy camera phone but here you go...

    https://ibb.co/McRZ7bM

    I have to say it sounds amazing, not digging the 9s???? that are on this guitar however, will be getting set up with 11s ASAP. 
    Sounds like a strat in the 2nd and 5th and it absolutely screams in 1st with some drive. I was terrified of the Floyd too but Ive given this thing a few hours of non stop abuse and it barely went out of tune. 
    Fretboard needs a good conditioning and it'll need a further set up when the big strings go on... But for 350 quid I'm absolutely delighted
    Not sure I'm so happy with mine.  My fingertips are black after 2 mins of playing, seems to be some weird graphite-type stuff on all the frets, I think the board is ok.

    Main problem is the microphony.  I can speak into bridge and middle pickups and hear my voice through the amplifier.  It squeals with microphonic feedback with normal levels of gain.  Very weird.  Not usable.  @skullfunkerry have you tried yours with some gain?  Any signs of microphony?


    Oh no, that's not good. I use a lot of gain, I haven't noticed that at all... I haven't tried speaking into them though, I must admit!

    EDIT: now that I've watched the video, mine definitely isn't like that... 
    Bloody annoying.  Weird that two pickups do the same thing, both the ones that are bolted to the body.  Maybe it needs some foam or something between the body and the pickup but I'm not messing around with it, it's going back.  Shame.

    What was the glue-type stuff on the fretboard?  As per the video, my fingers were black after two minutes of playing, another weird thing that I've never known before.
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  • skullfunkerryskullfunkerry Frets: 1600
    edited December 2019
    @Modellista I've just had a play with mine, I'm not running much volume and I'm going through my interface and monitors rather than the Katana speaker but I definitely can't talk into my pickups. There is quite a lot of noise from things like the pickup selector switch; possibly a bit more than my other guitars (PRS SE Holcomb and my Performance, which has EMGs), but I'd just put that down to the body feeling lighter and more resonant - for instance, in one of my riffs, there's a muted chord with a pause after it: on the Jackson you can hear things ringing through the amp; I assumed it was the strings behind the nut or the trem springs, so I didn't really pay it much attention.

    Shame you're so far away; it would be interesting to get them together and compare them...
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • @Modellista I've just had a play with mine, I'm not running much volume and I'm going through my interface and monitors rather than the Katana speaker but I definitely can't talk into my pickups. There is quite a lot of noise from things like the pickup selector switch; possibly a bit more than my other guitars (PRS SE Holcomb and my Performance, which has EMGs), but I'd just put that down to the body feeling lighter and more resonant - for instance, in one of my riffs, there's a muted chord with a pause after it: on the Jackson you can hear things ringing through the amp; I assumed it was the strings behind the nut or the trem springs, so I didn't really pay it much attention.

    Shame you're so far away; it would be interesting to get them together and compare them...
    Will be interesting to hear what you think after you've had a chance to wind up the gain with volume.  It does sound like you’ve got some signs of microphony if it’s picking up the sound of the switch moving. Don’t want to take the shine off your purchase though, hope it does turn out to be ok!


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  • It honestly looks like glue and it's gotten in to the board at some points, just white glue residue which is really disappointing.
    I will try at high gain and volume tomorrow and see if I'm getting the same issues, I'll be really disappointed if so. Serves me right for being a black Friday slug 
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  • skikdi53skikdi53 Frets: 172
    @Modellista, i like your video. 
    Thanks 
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  • @Modellista I've just had a play with mine, I'm not running much volume and I'm going through my interface and monitors rather than the Katana speaker but I definitely can't talk into my pickups. There is quite a lot of noise from things like the pickup selector switch; possibly a bit more than my other guitars (PRS SE Holcomb and my Performance, which has EMGs), but I'd just put that down to the body feeling lighter and more resonant - for instance, in one of my riffs, there's a muted chord with a pause after it: on the Jackson you can hear things ringing through the amp; I assumed it was the strings behind the nut or the trem springs, so I didn't really pay it much attention.

    Shame you're so far away; it would be interesting to get them together and compare them...
    Will be interesting to hear what you think after you've had a chance to wind up the gain with volume.  It does sound like you’ve got some signs of microphony if it’s picking up the sound of the switch moving. Don’t want to take the shine off your purchase though, hope it does turn out to be ok!


    Had a play this evening, just through the amp. Decent volume, loads of gain: I couldn't get it to do the microphonic feedback yours was, and talking into the pickups didn't work at all. Knocking on the body or using the pickup selector switch did come through though.

    I did notice that I got the noises no matter which pickup I was on: the two hot rails are screwed directly to the body and the humbucker is in a mounting ring. Didn't seem to make any difference. I tried it with my PRS (with Seymour Duncan Alpha & Omega pickups) afterwards and you can still hear noises through the amp, but not as clearly.

    I wonder what the pickups makers think about this? Paging @OilCityPickups or @Alegree - any thoughts on this, chaps?

    Overall I'm still happy with my guitar: it's really nice to play, the neck is great (and doesn't make my fingers go black); I think it would look cool with white pickups so if these are doing things they're not supposed to then I've got an excuse to swap them out! It's past the cutoff for returning now and I've binned the box it came in anyway, so that's not an option
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • AlegreeAlegree Frets: 471
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    @Modellista I've just had a play with mine, I'm not running much volume and I'm going through my interface and monitors rather than the Katana speaker but I definitely can't talk into my pickups. There is quite a lot of noise from things like the pickup selector switch; possibly a bit more than my other guitars (PRS SE Holcomb and my Performance, which has EMGs), but I'd just put that down to the body feeling lighter and more resonant - for instance, in one of my riffs, there's a muted chord with a pause after it: on the Jackson you can hear things ringing through the amp; I assumed it was the strings behind the nut or the trem springs, so I didn't really pay it much attention.

    Shame you're so far away; it would be interesting to get them together and compare them...
    Will be interesting to hear what you think after you've had a chance to wind up the gain with volume.  It does sound like you’ve got some signs of microphony if it’s picking up the sound of the switch moving. Don’t want to take the shine off your purchase though, hope it does turn out to be ok!


    Had a play this evening, just through the amp. Decent volume, loads of gain: I couldn't get it to do the microphonic feedback yours was, and talking into the pickups didn't work at all. Knocking on the body or using the pickup selector switch did come through though.

    I did notice that I got the noises no matter which pickup I was on: the two hot rails are screwed directly to the body and the humbucker is in a mounting ring. Didn't seem to make any difference. I tried it with my PRS (with Seymour Duncan Alpha & Omega pickups) afterwards and you can still hear noises through the amp, but not as clearly.

    I wonder what the pickups makers think about this? Paging @OilCityPickups or @Alegree - any thoughts on this, chaps?

    Overall I'm still happy with my guitar: it's really nice to play, the neck is great (and doesn't make my fingers go black); I think it would look cool with white pickups so if these are doing things they're not supposed to then I've got an excuse to swap them out! It's past the cutoff for returning now and I've binned the box it came in anyway, so that's not an option
    I'm not sure what the problem is. If you're knocking your guitar your strings are moving relative to the guitar body. As far as a pickup is concerned that's the same as moving the strings normally. Unless there's something more than a faint noise.
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    @Modellista I've just had a play with mine, I'm not running much volume and I'm going through my interface and monitors rather than the Katana speaker but I definitely can't talk into my pickups. There is quite a lot of noise from things like the pickup selector switch; possibly a bit more than my other guitars (PRS SE Holcomb and my Performance, which has EMGs), but I'd just put that down to the body feeling lighter and more resonant - for instance, in one of my riffs, there's a muted chord with a pause after it: on the Jackson you can hear things ringing through the amp; I assumed it was the strings behind the nut or the trem springs, so I didn't really pay it much attention.

    Shame you're so far away; it would be interesting to get them together and compare them...
    Will be interesting to hear what you think after you've had a chance to wind up the gain with volume.  It does sound like you’ve got some signs of microphony if it’s picking up the sound of the switch moving. Don’t want to take the shine off your purchase though, hope it does turn out to be ok!


    Had a play this evening, just through the amp. Decent volume, loads of gain: I couldn't get it to do the microphonic feedback yours was, and talking into the pickups didn't work at all. Knocking on the body or using the pickup selector switch did come through though.

    I did notice that I got the noises no matter which pickup I was on: the two hot rails are screwed directly to the body and the humbucker is in a mounting ring. Didn't seem to make any difference. I tried it with my PRS (with Seymour Duncan Alpha & Omega pickups) afterwards and you can still hear noises through the amp, but not as clearly.

    I wonder what the pickups makers think about this? Paging @OilCityPickups or @Alegree - any thoughts on this, chaps?

    Overall I'm still happy with my guitar: it's really nice to play, the neck is great (and doesn't make my fingers go black); I think it would look cool with white pickups so if these are doing things they're not supposed to then I've got an excuse to swap them out! It's past the cutoff for returning now and I've binned the box it came in anyway, so that's not an option
    I'm not sure what the problem is. If you're knocking your guitar your strings are moving relative to the guitar body. As far as a pickup is concerned that's the same as moving the strings normally. Unless there's something more than a faint noise.
    I'm actually hearing the noise of the knock or the switch through the amp, even if the strings are damped. It does it on all my guitars, but it's definitely worse on the Jackson (which is the cheapest of my guitars). With @Modellista's guitar, he can actually speak into the pickups and hear it come out of the amp
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • AlegreeAlegree Frets: 471
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    Damping the strings isn't going to help. It's the body moving that's causing it. If the body is light then any force is going to move it significantly more than a heavier one subjected to the same.
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  • Alegree said:
    Damping the strings isn't going to help. It's the body moving that's causing it. If the body is light then any force is going to move it significantly more than a heavier one subjected to the same.
    It is a very light body, that must be it. I mentioned earlier in the thread that it feels very light & resonant...
    Too much gain... is just about enough \m/

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  • AlegreeAlegree Frets: 471
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    Alegree said:
    Damping the strings isn't going to help. It's the body moving that's causing it. If the body is light then any force is going to move it significantly more than a heavier one subjected to the same.
    It is a very light body, that must be it. I mentioned earlier in the thread that it feels very light & resonant...
    You'll want to decouple the pickups from the body's vibrations as much as possible, some soft foam underneath ought to help
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  • @Alegree did you have a look at the video further up the page? What do you think about the feedback?
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 5148
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    From the video that's very microphonic! Foam under the pickups will help, but the screw heads and shafts need isolated too, or they will transfer part of the vibration. A silicone washer under each screw head, and possibly making sure the screw shafts aren't tight in the pickup base-plates would also be on my hit list. 
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  • From the video that's very microphonic! Foam under the pickups will help, but the screw heads and shafts need isolated too, or they will transfer part of the vibration. A silicone washer under each screw head, and possibly making sure the screw shafts aren't tight in the pickup base-plates would also be on my hit list. 
    Appreciate the advice. Do you think the pickups could be inherently faulty? I guess I could loosen off the pickups and see if the problem persists. 
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  • King85King85 Frets: 573
    Have you spoken to Andertons yet about this @Modellista ? They're likely to sort you out with a replacement as I don't think you should have to do this much faff on a new guitar.
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