Music room renovation

WiresDreamDisasters

The spend time save money guy is who I watched to learn how to do it. He makes it look easy, that's for sure!

My internal corners are coped; and they're better than my external ones!!

poopot

Barnezy said:

You do that, we all have different standards. I was just explaining how the professionals do it. In the 10 years I was a carpenter I never saw anyone draw the profile on a piece of paper, and if I did I would ask where they did their apprenticeship. 

Cor!!!!! I’m getting tagged all over the place!!!!

I'm not a chippy no... I used the bit of paper as I only had one scrap of skirt left... the paper is “another bit of skirting” just to show a way of doing it!... if you don’t have a chop saw and you can’t cut a 45deg in the board drawing the profile on the other bit of skirting works!!!!!!

anyhoo... the room looks bang tidy drew!!!! Top work!

WiresDreamDisasters

I've got some shelves to make for the alcove next, which is where my valve amps are all gonna go. Then the next bit is to sort my desk out, I'd like my main keyboard to be on a pullout tray, and I want a small amount of rack space, and another small desk for pad midi controllers and things like that.

Also gotta start thinking about cable management.

octatonic

WiresDreamDisasters said:

I've got some shelves to make for the alcove next, which is where my valve amps are all gonna go. Then the next bit is to sort my desk out, I'd like my main keyboard to be on a pullout tray, and I want a small amount of rack space, and another small desk for pad midi controllers and things like that.

Also gotta start thinking about cable management.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Adjustable-Reusable-Cable-Straps/dp/B083K8M8Y1

Keefy

@Barnezy I totally get that that is the pro way to do it, and I would expect that from a tradesman. I definitely have lower standards for DIY - it’s what I can live with and get past Mrs Keefy!

WiresDreamDisasters

Any tips on how to fix battens to brick for my amp shelves? I'm assuming that 7mm brown rawl plugs aren't going to be strong enough, so what anchors should I use for this?

demonoid_gnome

I`d be tempted to use 2 or 3 threaded 8 or 10mm..dia.steel rods per side batten. Drill the holes 70mm. into the bricks, fill them with polyester resin, then insert the rods and let the resin set around them. It`s probably slight overkill, but with sleeve anchors or similar there would be a risk of them pulling out or loosening, that won`t happen with the resin. I`d not fancy trusting heavy amps on anything less. Batten along the back edge, and a stiffening rib on the underside of the leading edge of the shelves at the front will stop them sagging too. Room looks ace, you`ve made a cracking job of it.

poopot

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any tips on how to fix battens to brick for my amp shelves? I'm assuming that 7mm brown rawl plugs aren't going to be strong enough, so what anchors should I use for this?

100mm screws and two 50mm long rawl plugs... 

The batton will break before they’ll come out the wall!!!!!

ToneControl

poopot said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any tips on how to fix battens to brick for my amp shelves? I'm assuming that 7mm brown rawl plugs aren't going to be strong enough, so what anchors should I use for this?

100mm screws and 50mm long rawl plugs... 

do you want floating shelves?

I wouldn't be confident long term with 10kg+ amps at the distance they are out from the wall

You could try rawlbolts, like they use for big heavy TVs


If it's in an alcove are the shelves going to be supported on 3 sides?
that would be OK
Just use 10mm rawlplugs then.

Pay attention to where the threads of the screws are and how deep the plug is going
How steady is your hand when drilling, you can end up with a hole wider than the bit, do you have an SDS drill?
I often use an 8mm drill for a 10mm plug, because I know my cheap SDS drill is a bit wobbly.
Ideally you should have to gently hammer the plug in

ToneControl

I like Pete Thorn's amp shelves

ToneControl

Actually, watch his whole build, 

poopot

Don’t forget, the weight is pulling down not out.

think of your kitchen cabinets, those things are normally held up by a few screws and a couple of small brackets... and they hold a shit tonne of weight in them...

As @ToneControl said, if the shelves are in an alcove and supported on all three sides you won’t have an issue...

ToneControl

poopot said:

Don’t forget, the weight is pulling down not out.

think of your kitchen cabinets, those things are normally held up by a few screws and a couple of small brackets... and they hold a shit tonne of weight in them...

As @ToneControl said, if the shelves are in an alcove and supported on all three sides you won’t have an issue...

Kitchen wall cabinets are pretty shallow, you would not normally load them up with the weight of an amp, and not as far from the wall.
Effectively the wall screws at the bottom are a pivot, and the ones at the top are trying to pull out, but the distance between pivot and that top screw is a lot further than the depth of the shelf. This will not be the case with wall shelves

reminded me: my mates, all 6 foot 19 year olds in their student house heard a break in during the night and were scared to go downstairs until the morning. Then they found the kitchen wall cabinets on the floor, with all the cans they had loaded into them!

Keefy

If you’re not supporting the amp shelves on 3 sides I would suggest something like Dexion racking, secured to the wall for stability.

WiresDreamDisasters

Thanks all!

I was planning on supporting on all 3 sides, but I found a free standing 5-tier metal shelf unit that will fit in the gap, so just gonna do that instead!

octatonic

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any tips on how to fix battens to brick for my amp shelves? I'm assuming that 7mm brown rawl plugs aren't going to be strong enough, so what anchors should I use for this?

I wouldn't do this.
I'd build a bookcase like structure out of hardwood and/or ply that fits amps you have now with space for two more and have it sit on the floor.

Or the scaffolding tubing we talked about previously and put some shelves on it.

WiresDreamDisasters

@octatonic ;
Yes free standing is the plan in the end

octatonic

WiresDreamDisasters said:

@octatonic ;
Yes free standing is the plan in the end

Yes I missed the last reply- I think I replied to a cached version of the thread.

WiresDreamDisasters

Tight squeeze that one!!

Keefy

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Tight squeeze that one!!

The tower of power!